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July 17th, 2012, 06:02 PM
#21
 Originally Posted by mobelby
What competition?
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July 17th, 2012, 06:11 PM
#22
^I don't believe a camera necessarily has to have a sensor of the same size to be competitive. The faster lens should make it pretty competitive, even though it's larger. The price difference will also make potential customers doubt between these cameras, and the EX2F, so yes, they are competitors.
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July 17th, 2012, 06:24 PM
#23
 Originally Posted by bartjeej
^I don't believe a camera necessarily has to have a sensor of the same size to be competitive. The faster lens should make it pretty competitive, even though it's larger. The price difference will also make potential customers doubt between these cameras, and the EX2F, so yes, they are competitors.
In low light I believe you are correct, but at low ISO the bigger sensor is much more useful than a fast lens. For what I've seen at base ISO I wouldn't be surprised if the Sony RX100 beat even my Fuji X100 regarding actual resolution (but the Fuji has better dynamic range I think).
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July 17th, 2012, 07:21 PM
#24
true, so long as the ISO can be kept low, the RX100 is a gamechanger. Even at higher ISO's it should not really lose out to its competition (which I'll define as the 1/1.7" type sensor class), although its advantage will be smaller or null due to the competition's faster lenses and lower ISO's.
My main point was, some people think that the RX100 has no competition, which is obviously not true. Having better IQ in a similar or smaller size is one heck of a USP, but it's not the only thing that potential consumers will be looking for; lens speed, user interface, rotating screens, hot shoe, ability to accept conversion lenses, and price can all be important parts of the equation, and people considering the RX100 may well find that another "serious compact" suits their needs better.
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July 17th, 2012, 08:47 PM
#25
A lot of so-called enthusiasts knocked the RX100 when announced because it had no external viewfinder. If the LX7 has that option attaching to the hotshoe maybe they'll go for that.
I wanted a really pocketable camera and fully retracting lens. The external viewfinder isn't really that important to me as I find I can use the Sony LCD even in bright light.
So I'm very happy with my purchase and just wish I had more time to learn its controls to get the best out of it
Sony RX-100 and Canon TX-1
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July 18th, 2012, 06:55 AM
#26
Received mine yesterday and so far am quite impressed! The big reason I switched from the Fuji X100 to this camera was to make it easier for my wife to take pics. She never learned to appreciate the X100 like I did lol. With that in mind I wanted to try the camera on the setting that she will use. These are JPEGs taken on "Intelligent Auto". I imported them into Aperture and hit them with the "Auto Enhance" feature. I then printed them at 8x10 to see the results. I am very happy to say the least.
These are of my grandson who is my favorite (and most tolerating) subject.

RX100 - Water Park by keven v, on Flickr

RX100 - Water Park by keven v, on Flickr

RX100 - Water Park by keven v, on Flickr

RX100 - Water Park by keven v, on Flickr
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July 18th, 2012, 02:34 PM
#27
I see why your grandson is such a tolerating subject, he's far too busy playing with water to worry about a camera! Fun pics, I particularly like the first one skintones seem to have a film-like feel to them, very nice! I think personally I'd town down the saturation a tiny bit, but for the amount of effort that's gone into them, these are really, really nice! Great detail in the background!
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July 18th, 2012, 11:47 PM
#28
 Originally Posted by Ray
Thanks - I think I get all of that. But when you're in manual focus, is there any sort of distance scale that shows you the distance you're focussed at? Most fixed lens cameras with manual focus seem to have some version of that, some with a depth of field indicator on it as well. Something so that I could just turn the manual focus control to set the focal distance at, say 2 feet, 5 feet, 10 feet, infinity, or something like that (maybe in meters rather than feet)???
-Ray
No, there is no distance scale or dof indicator. But thanks to focus peaking MF or pre-focusing are quick and easy, even in bright sunlight.
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July 19th, 2012, 01:29 AM
#29
I love the first and last shot, they feel like I'm in the scene with the boy, a lot of joy and spontaneity comes out of these pics.
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July 19th, 2012, 09:02 PM
#30
Two basic SOOC shots in my flickr gallery, sorry I couldn't upload them in the local gallery, they were too large. One shot is "unscientific" so called corner softness wide angle and wide open and the other of one of my best friends. This post follows comments in the lx7 thread: Panasonic DMC-LX7 Announced
I brought it over in this thread as to not pollute the lx7 thread with rx100 comments.
Enjoy.
Last edited by KianO; July 20th, 2012 at 04:03 AM.
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