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January 1st, 2013, 01:07 PM
#1051
 Originally Posted by BillN
bill spot"
I've not heard that one before
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January 1st, 2013, 01:47 PM
#1052
 Originally Posted by grebeman
I've not heard that one before
presumably he is implying that the Marsh has a bill spot and the Willow does not
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January 1st, 2013, 01:53 PM
#1053
Yes, I was suggesting that I had not heard that character of the species described before or being used as a means of differentiating between the two species, but that sort of knowledge is being gained all the time. I no longer take periodicals such as "British Birds" where these sort of things get discussed, so I'm not up to date on such advances.
Barrie
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January 2nd, 2013, 05:05 AM
#1054
Last edited by BillN; January 2nd, 2013 at 06:18 AM.
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January 3rd, 2013, 07:56 AM
#1055
Morning Barrie/Paul
another ID needed, please
seemed too big for a Dunnock, (but as Barrie has said, sometimes I have problems with size!) ....... but quite a few Dunnocks around as evidenced by the second image
Crop taken from a distance _ ID needed - is it a Dunnock? ....... as I said seems too big in my eyes!

My resident Dunnock, (well one of them)

Had a visit from a nice Song Thrush who just wanted to get nearer and nearer


Last edited by BillN; January 3rd, 2013 at 08:29 AM.
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January 3rd, 2013, 08:09 AM
#1056
If someone wanted an exemplar of "arrow shaped spots" for ID purposes, these would be perfect!
My photostream at Flickr.com is here
"We can not shake the illusion of the truthfulness of photography" - William Gedney
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January 3rd, 2013, 08:33 AM
#1057
 Originally Posted by pdh
If someone wanted an exemplar of "arrow shaped spots" for ID purposes, these would be perfect!
Thanks Paul - what surprised me was that the Song Thrush in the UK has a RED status - (I suppose it's those bloody cats again!!)
out here I'm not sure how many there are as;
"Hunting migratory song thrushes has long been a
popular sport in southern Europe. It remains legal in
France and Spain"
Is my ID "needed" a Dunnock - first image
The Marsh Tit has also been keeping my busy today as it's the first that I have knowingly seen
Last edited by BillN; January 3rd, 2013 at 08:39 AM.
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January 3rd, 2013, 08:42 AM
#1058
 Originally Posted by BillN
Morning Barrie/Paul
another ID needed, please
seemed too big for a Dunnock, (but as Barrie has said, sometimes I have problems with size!) ....... but quite a few Dunnocks around as evidenced by the second image
Crop taken from a distance _ ID needed - is it a Dunnock? ....... as I said seems too big in my eyes!

It's rather dull and hiding any decent ID features, however given it's stance and structure I'm going with a thrush of some kind. I would agree that it's too big for a Dunnock. There's a hint of an eyebrow, but I can only see it in front of the eye. I'm not certain if a twig is hiding the rest of that feature. I would really expect it to be a paler base colour below, but I'm tempted to suggest a Redwing (I'm looking at it on a laptop, so not the best of monitors).
Barrie
Sigma DP1M and DP2M, Panasonic GH2
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January 3rd, 2013, 08:49 AM
#1059
Thanks barrie
There were redwings around in the last two weeks
Will this help any further - a "blow up" of the image
(I could be getting confused sizewise when I compare naked eye - then bins - then I take a shot with a telephone, (450mm in this case), get it back to my computer and look at it - then I change my mind on what I thought it was ...... most confusing!

and the original image at 420mm, (300mm plus TC x1.4), from about 30 mtres, (but there again I am not great in judging distances to the metre)

I'll nip out and try to find it - although it's a little dark and it does not look as if the light will get any better ......... it will be there tomorrow ...... so I may get a second look
Last edited by BillN; January 3rd, 2013 at 09:03 AM.
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January 3rd, 2013, 09:03 AM
#1060
Hmmm, not a Redwing, but I'm convinced it's a thrush species which leaves us with rarities from eastern Europe, outside of my experience, but a 1st winter Black-throated Thrush would be the nearest. Described in the guide I'm looking at (not Collins, can't find it) as being neutral grey above with paler grey fringes to the wings, and dirty white almost unspotted belly. An interesting bird that would get the pulse racing I think.
Barrie
recent sighting
http://fair-isle.blogspot.co.uk/2012...ct-6-2012.html
Last edited by grebeman; January 3rd, 2013 at 09:09 AM.
Sigma DP1M and DP2M, Panasonic GH2
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