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July 23rd, 2012, 11:12 AM
#21
For this long-time Canon film and digital devotee....the EOS-M is not appealing. My wallet is safe for another day....
Chuck
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July 23rd, 2012, 11:37 AM
#22
i do like that they get a faster 35 equiv small lens :(
*shakes fist at olympus*
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July 23rd, 2012, 11:38 AM
#23
This looks completely uninteresting to me, but then again, it is obviously not aimed at enthusiasts. Looks too conservative - perhaps designed by a committee who asked a random group of people what they want in a camera. This looks more like a response to the dying P&S than the threat of mirrorless. Yawn.
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July 23rd, 2012, 01:27 PM
#24
 Originally Posted by Isoterica
Also thinking I am becoming numb to all the advertisements which is good, no GAS, but.. being bored is actually a bit disturbing :D
Oh really? I'd say being bored with the Canikons made for the mainstream mass market is a healthy sign. ;)
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July 23rd, 2012, 02:06 PM
#25
It looks nice, but a bit unwieldy with bigger lenses.
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July 23rd, 2012, 02:59 PM
#26
 Originally Posted by Ernie
Oh really? I'd say being bored with the Canikons made for the mainstream mass market is a healthy sign. ;)
;) I am by no means a Canon hater, I have loved my little XSi and my macro lenses. There just isn't that quality of glass on a compact camera and close-up capabilities on some of them while nice in a pinch is not good enough for me given the frequency I shoot like that. But.. the cake and eat it too of small with serious quality glass at a price I can afford to boot is not going to happen so I've just stopped getting excited. Plus that little EOS M, while it does come with lens etc [hate the 18-55 kit lens for my dslr btw], is as much as the new t4i. Add in the EF adapter, which I would, and it's a grand. Average Joe(sie) here can not afford.. and as for mainstream most of it is out of Japan whatever the name.
I will keep my thumbs up that someone.. will create the right stuff though :)
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July 23rd, 2012, 06:46 PM
#27
 Originally Posted by Ernie
Not really. Keep in mind that the people doing those first impressions and reviews are mere mortals, too. It's always subjective, and the first impressions depend heavily on the conditions. You really shouldn't make any kind of conclusion yet, based on the very first press release impressions alone. Especially ones (apparently) based on pre-production models and non-final firmware.
None of those reviewers have had a chance to do a proper in-depth review yet, and their comments are based on a few minutes playing with it in some typical hotel function room or company showroom. Whilst one reviewer is trying the AF merely by shuffling the focus point between several fixed, well lit and high contrast targets, like the Canon gear on the table, another reviewer may be trying it on moving targets further away, like fellow members of the media in dim lighting conditions, which will most certainly result to very different first impressions. Typical CAF can be fast, but unreliable. Apparently the camera has a typical CAF system. (edit: apparently the camera does have the in-sensor PAF, after all, the same introduced in the latest EOS DSLR)
I'm not sure which lens is attached in that Italian video but, looked like the subject was relatively close, and it looked more like typical CAF hunt within close enough distance, rather than slow AF in general.
The problem is that the best CDAF systems today are very, very good in a variety of conditions. If the pre-production cameras had impressive autofocus speed then we would have seen evidence of it in the videos posted so far. The only hope is that there is a lot left to gain in the final production models, but if that is the case then Canon has done themselves no favours by handing over such underdone prototypes to the press.
Nic (Canonite, Olympian, Panasonian, Samsunite) ~flickr~
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July 24th, 2012, 05:21 AM
#28
Here is why, as a 35mm shooter, I'm still rather excited about the EOS-M as a system:
Compact Camera Meter
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July 24th, 2012, 08:56 AM
#29
 Originally Posted by Julien
Here is why, as a 35mm shooter, I'm still rather excited about the EOS-M as a system:
Compact Camera Meter
It's a little better with the 16 on the NEX:
Compact Camera Meter
but i know what you mean. The EOS-M is pretty compact, and if needed you could attach your DSLR lenses with full functionality.
The big advantage vs. NEX will be that Canon can knock out new lenses a lot faster than Sony. You get a APS-C sensor and a nice f2 pancake in a package the size of the X10.
Last edited by drd1135; July 24th, 2012 at 09:04 AM.
Olympus E-PM1, E-PL5, and XZ-1; Pentax Q
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July 24th, 2012, 10:10 AM
#30
 Originally Posted by drd1135
This is why I wrote "as a 35mm (equiv.) shooter". If I shot a lot at any other focal length, I wouldn't find anything of interest in this new system.
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