Thread: Why pixel peeping and megapixels matter to me.

Originally Posted by Andrewteee

Fortunately, I don't make money with my pictures

Interesting comment. Does that mean unfortunately I do?

Originally Posted by soundimageplus

Interesting comment. Does that mean unfortunately I do?

No, sorry, not at all. I just mean that I don't have clients to appease. I do that 8+ hours a day at work (and then at home for the family). I mean that my photography is my own time, the time I get to do what I enjoy most, that I get to sink into the zone of creativity and do it for myself and no one else. By fortunately, I mean that I'm happy to have an interest or hobby that I'm deeply passionate about. If I were to do photography as a business on top of what I do for a living as a designer then it would not be as much fun, since it would not really be the relaxing down time I need every day.

But fortunately, I also love my day job as I'm sure that you love photography as a career. You stumbled on to it earlier in life than I did. It was not until I was nearly 40 that I got serious about photography. Had I gotten serious about it when I was 20 then I would probably be a professional photographer today. I'll get more serious about it when I get a bit older and time frees up, but right now free time is about the last thing that I have.

Originally Posted by Andrewteee

No, sorry, not at all. I just mean that I don't have clients to appease.

This is getting worse!!

ap·pease/əˈpēz/Verb
1. Pacify or placate (someone) by acceding to their demands.
2. Relieve or satisfy (a demand or a feeling): "we give to charity because it appeases our guilt".

Personally I've never "appeased" anyone in my life.

Originally Posted by Andrewteee

No, sorry, not at all. I just mean that I don't have clients to appease.

I do understand what you mean by the way. Appeasement just has unfortunate connotations here in the UK. 1939 and all that.

Originally Posted by soundimageplus

This is getting worse!!

ap·pease/əˈpēz/Verb
1. Pacify or placate (someone) by acceding to their demands.
2. Relieve or satisfy (a demand or a feeling): "we give to charity because it appeases our guilt".

Personally I've never "appeased" anyone in my life.

Relax... it's just a term I often use regarding clients. But there are indeed times when we have to in fact give in to clients. We have time, money and scope to work with and scope is the toughest of the three to manage since most clients today, because of the economy, work under fixed fee projects. We have a strong point of view and we back up our recommendations with solid evidence and compelling arguments, but every now and then some clients simply must have something, so we acquiesce. It's just part of the consulting life.

Appease, please, do work for, whatever... the client pays the bills and they own the products so the work is for them. But we try and do 10% for ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Andrewteee

Relax... it's just a term I often use regarding clients. But there are indeed times when we have to in fact give in to clients. We have time, money and scope to work with and scope is the toughest of the three to manage since most clients today, because of the economy, work under fixed fee projects. We have a strong point of view and we back up our recommendations with solid evidence and compelling arguments, but every now and then some clients simply must have something, so we acquiesce. It's just part of the consulting life.

Appease, please, do work for, whatever... the client pays the bills and they own the products so the work is for them. But we try and do 10% for ourselves.

Originally Posted by soundimageplus

See above

Yes, I saw that after I posted I used to work with a guy from England and he made fun of our bastardization of proper English.

Originally Posted by Andrewteee

Yes, I saw that after I posted I used to work with a guy from England and he made fun of our bastardization of proper English.

Yes, appeasement is associated over here as capitulating unconditionally to a lying, psychotic, dictatorial, brutal madman.

On second thoughts that sounds like a few of my ex-clients!

Even with smaller sensors more pixels can be of use.
I saw this at work when all I had with me was my Nokia N8

The N8 has superb lens and with CameraPro installed a great deal of control.
Because it is 12mp I was able to use digital zoom with minimal loss of quality.

Great thread; cultural divides, language disconnects, and pixel peeping. And. it is the classic conundrum; what will you carry, and for how far. Wasn't it Weston, who muttered that there was nothing photogenic more than a 100 yards from the car?

Most of the time, the iPhone is my main camera, because it's there, but sometimes, I need to drag out the heavy stuff, my much battered Canon G9. When I document fine art, MP, and all else, are well within the needs of my customers, and the LCD makes the machine into a pocket view camera, making it far easier for me to be efficient.

As a painter, gilder, carver, etc., the conversations about gear have been minimal, or non-existent, but as a photographer, gear talk sometimes seems the main conversation. My point being, choose the gear that works for you, and ignore the barking dogs at the side of the road; there is no profit in them.