Thread: Goodbye Sony Nex 6 ...

It's really just a personal choice, and you like what you like. I think the Fuji XE1 is a wonderful camera (I love my X10) and if I were to part with my NEX that's likely the direction I would go. Of course I am very much a fan of legacy glass so the NEX is a good fit for what I want. As to the NEX rendering looking "digital", I don't find that to be the case at all. In fact, I have always felt that that sort of rendering is more an issue with the lenses being used than the sensor. When I had a Panasonic GX1 I found the Olympus 45/1.8 to render images that were very sharp but IMHO had a rather cold clinical look to them. I found it most disagreeable. The PL45/2.8 OTOH produced wonderful images on the same camera. It really all comes back to what you like. Like StanlyK put it..."no right or wrong". All of the cameras you mention are excellent and capable of great results. I think the actual between differences are likely quite small. Go with whatever feels right.

FWIW I spend a good deal of time on TalkNEX and it seems to me that there are a good deal more folks joining that forum than leaving at the moment. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that daily I am seeing new folks introduce themselves.

Wolf
I hope you end up happy with your choices. That is what really matters. It can sometimes be difficult because there is nothing wrong with a camera - it just doesn't work for me. When the Nex 7 was announced I was pleased. What's not to like ? But I don't like the handling or the EVF. For me the OMD was even worse. Again, a great camera; so many solid features in an excellent, small body, plus a range of good lenses. But I didn't like it at all.

But I fully understand why people do like both.

I found my camera in the X-Pro 1. Comments about the AF being 'sluggish' leave me a bit bewildered. It's not as fast as some, but works superbly for me. And I love having an OVF. Meantime the lenses are excellent. The IQ has a feel, a presence, that I really enjoy. Most of all it is in a package that I find natural and intuitive in use. To me Fuji has taken the solid advances of digital and combined them with some more traditional controls that are not there because they are traditional, but because they work. I find using the Fuji to be fluid and natural.

But, many do not feel the same. The point is to have the courage to move to what really works for you. You will be passing the Nex 6 on to someone else, and there is a good chance it will be perfect for them. Everyone wins.

Originally Posted by Pelao

Wolf
I hope you end up happy with your choices. That is what really matters. It can sometimes be difficult because there is nothing wrong with a camera - it just doesn't work for me. When the Nex 7 was announced I was pleased. What's not to like ? But I don't like the handling or the EVF. For me the OMD was even worse. Again, a great camera; so many solid features in an excellent, small body, plus a range of good lenses. But I didn't like it at all.

But I fully understand why people do like both.

I found my camera in the X-Pro 1. Comments about the AF being 'sluggish' leave me a bit bewildered. It's not as fast as some, but works superbly for me. And I love having an OVF. Meantime the lenses are excellent. The IQ has a feel, a presence, that I really enjoy. Most of all it is in a package that I find natural and intuitive in use. To me Fuji has taken the solid advances of digital and combined them with some more traditional controls that are not there because they are traditional, but because they work. I find using the Fuji to be fluid and natural.

But, many do not feel the same. The point is to have the courage to move to what really works for you. You will be passing the Nex 6 on to someone else, and there is a good chance it will be perfect for them. Everyone wins.

Well said.

Was joking, I don't hate the OM-D except it does nothing for me (too small, too cramped, tiny buttons, don't like the signature look of the cam, ignominous Oly menus, etc). Plus for a while the m4/3 community was very keen on making all non OM-D worshipers feel like crud (but that's another story). The GX-1, OTOH, was a cam I loved to death. If it'd had an APS-C sensor I'd still be shooting it and totally immune to any form of GAS.
I will sorely miss the fabulous Peaking feature that has made me enjoy NEX so much for the past 6 months. But after being a very dedicated (and much improved) MF shooter, I want to enjoy the ease of AF again for a while. I know it sounds counter intuitive as Fuji has arguably among the worst AF performance of CSC as of now (though the crown belongs to the Canon M, lol). But the two newly announced models have cracked the fast AF riddle, and it won't be long that Fuji gives us an XE-2 with the fast AF and Peaking. Can't wait.

Fuji has arguably among the worst AF performance of CSC.

No doubt it is among the slower, but there are nuances to AF performance. The X-Pro 1 for example has, in my experience, superbly accurate and reliable AF. Meantime the speed is far from slow for my purposes. I suppose this underlines the need to know your shooting needs, and to try for yourself. Technical ability and reviews are good guidelines, but no substitute for a test run.

I've owned the NEX3/5/5n/7. They were all excellent cameras and capable of producing high quality images, including high ISO performance. This is just a total matter of opinion (and some people will vehemently disagree with me), but one of my primary pet peeves against the NEX (other than the lack of native lenses) is the look. The NEX line of cameras just looks ugly. I really tried liking them, because they are capable cameras. I did come close to liking the NEX7 because of the nice controls. But it's still uglier than the OMD and Fuji X cameras. Yeah I know, I've been called "glib" before.

Originally Posted by Armanius

... I did come close to liking the NEX7 because of the nice controls...

Ah ah, +1. I do think the 7 has its own kind of unique beauty. But it looks really cold and futuristic, compared to the X-E1. But to each their own, I was head over heels for the looks of the GX-1, and still find it the sexiest m4/3 camera too date, and by far.

Among the Sony NEX cameras, the 6 appears on paper to be the model that might suit me the most, but I'm less keen on trying one now. I had a 5N late last year and as a camera it just felt a little odd to me. Not bad at all, just not what I expect in a camera. The image output, while I couldn't really fault it much technically, seemed to lack an edge, or character...or something. The same sensor has been a success in a lot of different cameras so maybe it is just something in Sony's own image processing that I don't gel with? Not sure. Whatever it was it didn't suit what I wanted to use the camera for. Anyhow, I happened upon a cut price Samsung NX200 soon afterwards and almost immediately bonded with it, it's output, and it's lovely little pancake lenses. I put a lot of value in both how a camera works and how it feels in the hand. The 5N wasn't for me, but I have no doubt that it will find a new owner who'll enjoy it more than I did. I have too many cameras anyway...

The nex 6 / 7 looks quite ok imo, but not as sexy as omd/ xe-1 / x100...

But I do agree that the OMD needs the grip for a better grip.

Again, the nex (6) are great cameras and i love using legacy glass from time to time, but i can't hold on to the nex 6 just for that.
The lenses is what makes you stay with a system mainly

Originally Posted by Wolf

The nex 6 / 7 looks quite ok imo, but not as sexy as omd/ xe-1 / x100...

But I do agree that the OMD needs the grip for a better grip.

Again, the nex (6) are great cameras and i love using legacy glass from time to time, but i can't hold on to the nex 6 just for that.
The lenses is what makes you stay with a system mainly

I think that's a very good point. The lenses are often a significant factor in determining system preference. If you prefer legacy glass the NEX with focus peaking can be a very appealing system. If you like the wide selection of high quality native glass then m43 is a really terrific option (my GX1 and PL25/PL45 were a great combo). I don't mention Fuji because I don't know enough about them but I will say if the XE-1 ever got focus peaking I would very tempted to pick one up.