Thread: DP2M versus Fuji X100

Andrew. the test was a quick test in between the constant rain showers we seem to having here. the focus locked on, so I know there wasn't an issue. trust me, the RAW on my computer looked a lot sharper, but certainly could have done with some more in LR4.

When I have the time I will take a test shot of my bookshelf with both. plenty of tiny detail there to examine.

Is there an upload limit? For some reason i cant upload any pictures despite their size of only 300kb

Pete, Don't trouble. They are both fine cameras! I'm not sure if LR has it, but in most cases I use the deconvolution method for sharpening. My PP program RAW Developer has it and it sharpens things up nicely without looking oversharpened. I also shoot at f5.6 or wider with the X100 in most cases. Things may start to soften up above f5.6 but I have not tested that theory.

Nothing can really compete with the DP2M in terms of sharpness.

Originally Posted by petemasty

Andrew. the test was a quick test in between the constant rain showers we seem to having here. the focus locked on, so I know there wasn't an issue. trust me, the RAW on my computer looked a lot sharper, but certainly could have done with some more in LR4.

When I have the time I will take a test shot of my bookshelf with both. plenty of tiny detail there to examine.

Originally Posted by Xuereb

I look on my DP2M as a miniature 4x5 field camera, light, immensely portable, two step digital processing, albeit without movements or the ability to change lenses, mounted on a tripod with a single film speed:100. I also can't think why I would want another lens on it; its present lens being superb with a field of view similar to that which my mind comes upon.

Interesting perspective. Makes a lot of sense.

I'm a latecomer to the joys of the Foveon Sensor but with the announcement of the DP3 and the small tele lens I think I've found something I want.
I looked at the Sigma DP3 samples and a shot of Prague just blew me away. The detail is incredible and way beyond what's possible with my X100 or X1.

Now I need to rid myself of some Fuji gear before I look harder.
For me 75mm has always been more natural than 35mm or 50mm as a standard lens.

nippa, the Prague samples are amazing in the way they render light and colour. The DPM's convey texture in an almost tactile way. Interestingly, for 4x5 Blakemore used only one lens slightly longer than 'longer' field of view, in his case 180mm (as distinct from 150mm).

Originally Posted by petemasty

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Each set at ISO100 and f8.
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The X100 sensor has a base ISO of 200, so exposing at ISO 100 makes the camera 'correct' an over-exposed raw image and there is a loss of quality. Shooting at ISO 100 will reduce the X100 image quality. At ISO 200 the EXR processor cannot do any Dynamic Range tricks, i.e. if you try to set DR 200% in ISO 200 the camera will force DR 100%.

My experience with the X100 is there is very little noise difference between ISO 200 and ISO 800. If you are comparing SOOC Jpegs I recommend setting the your X100 to ISO 800 and Dynamic Range to Auto which will let the camera select DR 100%, DR 200%, or DR 400% as it sees fit.

The other day I went for a walk in the woods with my son and took along the X100 and DP2M. I shot primarily with the X100, but took a few with the DP2M. I have found a way to process the Foveon files that allows me to leverage SPP and use my favorite processing app - RAW Developer. I process for a B&W image in SPP then export as 16 bit TIFF, open that in RAW Developer, and process with my favorite recipes (adjusted for the Foveon files).

While these are both great cameras and I'm very happy with the output of both, the DP2M has better detail and, I think, better conveys the complex nature of those woods. But again, I'm happy with both cameras and I've captured many, many great pictures of the woods with the X100.

Here is one of the DP2M pictures: