December 18th, 2012, 11:35 AM
From a piece in The Atlantic:
I pay $25 a year for Flickr. I sure hope they don't go social!!! Let me pay the money and do things my own way.
Truly, the only way to get around the privacy problems inherent in advertising-supported social networks is to pay for services that we value. It's amazing what power we gain in becoming paying customers instead of the product being sold.
Why You Should Want to Pay for Software, Instagram Edition - Alexis C. Madrigal - The Atlantic
From Instagram's new terms:
The metadata will, in many cases, include location data. This makes it more valuable to the purchaser, and even more concerning for me as the parent of a 14 year-old girl. She doesn't geo-tag her photographs, but how many parents even know about this stuff.
Some or all of the Service may be supported by advertising revenue. To help us deliver interesting paid or sponsored content or promotions, you agree that a business or other entity may pay us to display your username, likeness, photos (along with any associated metadata), and/or actions you take, in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you.
Last edited by Pelao; December 18th, 2012 at 11:40 AM.
December 18th, 2012, 01:35 PM
December 18th, 2012, 01:49 PM
I couldn't disagree more, but then we risk turning this thread into yet another very very dull "mac vs everyone else" exchange.
Originally Posted by Andrewteee
Lets stick to agreeing that Instagram et al are the Axis of Evil
My photostream at Flickr.com is here
"We can not shake the illusion of the truthfulness of photography" - William Gedney
December 18th, 2012, 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by pdh
December 18th, 2012, 02:52 PM
Aw come on, we were just getting started
Originally Posted by pdh
December 18th, 2012, 05:27 PM
Agreed, Stephen - that's the part that really got to me and made me want to post about this.
In the Instagram case, it may be important for some people to note that their images, plus their identity, can not only be sold to other concerns, but can actually be used in advertising. I would not be too excited to see my 14 year old daughter being used in that way.
December 18th, 2012, 05:34 PM
I wonder which would have been the more palatable solution to make money out of instagram: This, or a combination of a paid full service and limited free service.
Nic (Canonite, Olympian, Panasonian, Samsunite) ~flickr~
December 18th, 2012, 05:36 PM
Just began to delete my account and it appears they're changing their tone a bit. I won't keep my account because it was so small and I really never "got" Instagram, though I used to like their post processing effects.
Advertising on Instagram From the start, Instagram was created to become a business. Advertising is one of many ways that Instagram can become a self-sustaining business, but not the only one. Our intention in updating the terms was to communicate that we’d like to experiment with innovative advertising that feels appropriate on Instagram. Instead it was interpreted by many that we were going to sell your photos to others without any compensation. This is not true and it is our mistake that this language is confusing. To be clear: it is not our intention to sell your photos. We are working on updated language in the terms to make sure this is clear.
To provide context, we envision a future where both users and brands alike may promote their photos & accounts to increase engagement and to build a more meaningful following. Let’s say a business wanted to promote their account to gain more followers and Instagram was able to feature them in some way. In order to help make a more relevant and useful promotion, it would be helpful to see which of the people you follow also follow this business. In this way, some of the data you produce — like the actions you take (eg, following the account) and your profile photo — might show up if you are following this business.
The language we proposed also raised question about whether your photos can be part of an advertisement. We do not have plans for anything like this and because of that we’re going to remove the language that raised the question. Our main goal is to avoid things likes advertising banners you see in other apps that would hurt the Instagram user experience. Instead, we want to create meaningful ways to help you discover new and interesting accounts and content while building a self-sustaining business at the same time.
Here is more: Thank you, and we’re listening - Instagram Blog
December 18th, 2012, 06:59 PM
It should be no surprise that Instagram is adopting Facebook terms.. At one point when Instagram went Android I had signed up but then Facebook took over.. I never posted a thing. I do not like the FB policies and the service just isn't good enough to make me tolerate that kind of privacy invasion or liberal use of my property whether it is information or photos. The interface isn't even attractive.. I really don't get the obsession over that network. Whatever..
December 18th, 2012, 07:11 PM
Amen, sister! People joke about the old myspace, but has anyone looked at facebook......that look was worn out 2 years ago. It's about 1 step more modern than Craigslist
Originally Posted by Isoterica
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