Thread: So I sold my M7 and Summicron 50, now what?

Hard to find? Really? Have you tried googling lately? I've seen both pictures and videos. One of the most obvious places to go for pretty pictures would be Sigma Cameras Overview | SigmaPhoto.com of course. There is also a dedicated site for the DP2 model(s), albeit a flash site, unfortunately.

I'm not a Sigma advocate but, it does meet the given specs, more so than E-M5. After all, it's a compact camera with the size and looks of a compact camera and yet, it has an 1.5 crop factor Foveon sensor. If I was looking for a high end compact camera, I'd most certainly check it out. THe only major downside with the DP series, as well as with most serious compacts, ftm, is the lack of proper EVF. It doesn't have to be a fancy rangefinder or even a hybrid, just an external EVF or a built-in one, like in Sony NEX-7. Suppose it could also use an AMOLED screen á la Samsung but here again, most other serious compacts don't do much better. Not too many CSC's deliver, either.

BTW, the DP1 Merrill is otherwise the same, but it has a wider angle lens, namely 19mm.

Just to let you guys know; after some hard deliberations, I finally took a decision and bought the Ricoh GRD IV. Now I fully realize that this camera is not going to give me the IQ of my Leica M7 and Summicron 50, it won't even come close. On the other hand, is this really what I was after to begin with? The answer to that question is no. Even with the Leica I hardly ever printed anything larger than 5x7. Yet because of the fact that the Leica was still pretty heavy and relatively large, there have been moments in the past where I didn't take the Leica with me. So for me it was always going to be a trade-off between IQ and size/weight. Since I have always admired the GRD design and philosophy behind it, I have decided to take the plunge and now I can't wait for it to arrive in the mail

Originally Posted by Andrewteee

DP2-M info and pictures are hard to find, but they are starting to trickle in. It remains to be seen if that camera improves on previous DP2 weaknesses, but if they do it is a camera to be reckoned with. It's expensive though at $1000 out of the gate.

I'd throw the Olympus E-M5 into the mix too.

Originally Posted by Ernie

Hard to find? Really? Have you tried googling lately? I've seen both pictures and videos. One of the most obvious places to go for pretty pictures would be Sigma Cameras Overview | SigmaPhoto.com of course. There is also a dedicated site for the DP2 model(s), albeit a flash site, unfortunately.

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Was there any obvious reason to be so rude? Someone disagreed with you? You had a difference of opinions?

Just the Growth Curve of any forum.

Originally Posted by Brian

Was there any obvious reason to be so rude? Someone disagreed with you? You had a difference of opinions?

Just the Growth Curve of any forum.

Was there any obvious reason to assume that was intended to be rude? Someone picked a fight with with you? You had a difference of opinions?

With written words online, we cannot hear the tone of voice, nor can we see the body language, so unfortunately there is plenty of room for misinterpretations, ones that hardly ever take place in the real world discussions. This is important to remember in intenational forums like this one, where the participants come from various cultural and lingual backgrounds. However, ever since the dawn of online forums and social media, there have been many good guidelines, one of the oldest and best being "always assume good intentions first." Keeping this particular old guideline in mind will steer you clear of many unnecessary conflicts and unnecessary misunderstandings, Brian. It would have done so in this case, too.

In other words, I hope you read my previous post in its entirety, not just the first two sentences. Assume good intentions first, and when in doubt, feel free to PM me first. There was nothing rude in that post, and at least none intended. Furthermore, it did not involve you to begin with, and apparently Andrewteee hasn't found the post rude. Had he told me it did, I would have apologized and settled the misunderstanding with him directly.

Speaking of rude, I think all of my posts here so far have been more or less polite and intended to be helpful, even though no one even bothered to say welcome when I joined this forum and posted my first message, not so long ago. It simply got ignored.
Oh well, maybe that was not rude, maybe that was just the style or the "Growth Curve" of this particular forum.
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Originally Posted by Ernie

Speaking of rude, I think all of my posts here so far have been more or less polite and intended to be helpful, even though no one even bothered to say welcome when I joined this forum and posted my first message, not so long ago. It simply got ignored.
Oh well, maybe that was not rude, maybe that was just the style or the "Growth Curve" of this particular forum.
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We missed your story in "Forum: Welcomes and Introductions" maybe that's the reason you got ignored....

Originally Posted by Nuskyn

We missed your story in "Forum: Welcomes and Introductions" maybe that's the reason you got ignored....

Well, it indeed wasn't in the introductions section and it wasn't a big deal, anyway. But the point was that, the post did have a question, if ever so 'dumb' from the non-newbies POV, but the question was ignored. Again, no biggie, but it didn't give a particularly good first impression from this particular forum, or that particular part of it.

The point being that sometimes we're a bit too quick to see rude behaviour, even though there really is no real reason for it.

Originally Posted by Ernie

Was there any obvious reason to assume that was intended to be rude? Someone picked a fight with with you? You had a difference of opinions?

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Yes, rude. Had you posted some links to just give information rather than include statements like "Hard to find? Really? Have you tried googling lately?" it would not appear to be rude. Posts directed at another member asking "tried googling lately?" are belittling of other's efforts to find the information. "Tried Googling Lately?" sounds like something that would come out of a teen-age computer geek. I could answer, "It's been a while since I used HOTBOT, but I still use Google."

As far as picking fights, I'm tired of reading posts that are aimed at other members rather than just containing the useful information.

a lot of good members are getting "run off" of the forum as a result.

PEACE, PEOPLE. PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT FOR A DEEP BREATH OR TWO. CONFLICT RESOLVES NOTHING.

THANK YOU KINDLY.

Sent from another Galaxy

This is a good place to post a link to the Terms of Service and Site Rules that we all agreed to when we joined. I'm pretty sure many of us, just clicked a box and moved on.

Site Rules / Terms of Service

I'm pretty sure Ernie didn't mean any malice in his post after reading beyond the first couple lines. But those first couple lines can really make the hair stand up on people's backs. That's why it is right there in rule #2.

And Brian meant well pointing out a flaw, but sometimes that just stirs up the pot. It's better yet to let a moderator know.....that's why we're paid the big bucks

And then it turns into something no one really wants to be a part of. Brian helps out a lot by sharing his knowledge freely and that likely factored into his response. When you have knowledge or links (even if you used Google to get them), feel free to share them without implying the OP doesn't know how to search.

The community is all about sharing. Share nice. Use your mods. Read the rules. Treat others as you would like to be treated.