July 13th, 2012, 10:25 PM
What I have learned since getting a new screen
1) What I thought was focussed and sharp... wasn't
2) What I thought was "good" colour... wasn't
3) What I thought was noiseless or very little... wasn't
4) Much more.
1) I have a lot of photographs which will be junked
2) I have a lot of photographs which if not junked will have to be re-edited
3) I still have a MASSIVE amount to learn about getting the finished product from camera to print or web.
And I thought I already knew a lot. Now, I know that I don't know what I don't know.
Oh, yeah... and now, nearly all of the photographs I think are fairly decent have actually come from the GRD3, not the K-5 or X100. Go figure.
July 13th, 2012, 10:37 PM
the $1,000,000 question now is have you saved the "original" and do you shoot RAW?
Post a few before and afters once you've "fixed" a few. I'd be interested to see the difference (if I even can on my crapola screen).
July 13th, 2012, 10:51 PM
Well, see, thats the point, you probably wont be able to see the difference. I couldn't, on my laptop, nor on my iMac. Now I can, its disheartening. I'm keeping pix which cant be replaced or re-shot, I'm keeping stuff that seems OK to begin with. I'm going have a delete-fest from flickr and redbubble (not everything will go, just that which looks crap on my screen now), but not so much from the PPG because it takes too much to get accepted there in the first place, though I think some will face the axe, even so.
Originally Posted by Luke
Its going to be a long time before I'll do before and after, Luke... (hell... freeze... ) though I appreciate your interest.
July 13th, 2012, 10:59 PM
maybe you can point to an example in your flickr and tell us why it's no longer acceptable. Make it a teaching point.
July 13th, 2012, 11:24 PM
A good monitor is worth a thousand words. But we have to remember that what you had before was what most people have. However, if you print, then it becomes critical. I can only print from what I see on my calibrated NEC monitor.
July 13th, 2012, 11:41 PM
I remember when I assembled a really great revealing stereo system. a handful of records sounded great and the rest sounded like crap. I think I'm probably happier without seeing how my photos really look.
July 13th, 2012, 11:42 PM
Thanks, Andrew. Yes, I know that most people probably saw it as it really is - or maybe not, if they have screens that saturate colour (mine clearly did), and thats why its difficult to show what I mean, here... but for Luke, I'll try :)
Original flickr, and its on redbubble and PPG as well... like this, and to my eyes, washed out. It always looked a bit that way once posted to the web. But not here, in iPhoto or PS (it does now!!)
Big Surf by kyte50, on Flickr
The just edited version with more saturation, that day the ocean wasnt a pale blue it was a deep green blue. I still don't have the colour right, but its all I am doing right now and I hope that ppl will be able to see a difference.
bigsurf1 by kyte50, on Flickr
When I uploaded originally, to me, the second version here is what I thought I was uploading. But once it got to its destination, it looked like the first. Does this make any sense at all?
July 14th, 2012, 12:14 AM
I wish I could use my external monitor all the time. It is far more detailed than my MacBook Pro screen and B&W looks beautiful. Prints even better!
July 14th, 2012, 12:55 AM
I look at the virtual world through this rubbish little 10" netbook screen - and those two images look vastly different Sue. That second one has another worldly light and spirit to it. Nice work!
July 14th, 2012, 02:41 AM
Thanks, Mark. It looks a bit that way on my laptop too, but oversaturated. The first one looks washed out but on the laptop, the "home" version looks more like the second, and the home version of the second looks pretty wild. On the Dell screen, with the sRGB profile selected, the first is washed out and looks the same on the web as it does on the "home" version.... the second looks like its supposed to, on the web, and again. no colour changes from the "home" version.
Don't know how else to explain it.
Anyway, I think everything will have to be deleted from RB, not that anyone is buying from me, but if they did, the prints would be dreadful and they would be asking for refunds. I've decided theres too much on flickr to re-edit. I'll just have to do better from now on.
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