Thread: Almost slipped backwards...

Originally Posted by Landshark

For example yesterday shooting a small job for me shot about 3500 frames with a Canon 1Dx and 850 with the Leaf AFI, neither the OMD or Fuji could have kept up, but on the other hand I had 5 assistants, 3 tripods and a 35ft truck for all of the equipment not something I even want to think about when shooting for myself.

And I get tired of carrying a tripod! :D

I have no regrets as I haven't sold anything. They just kinda pile up.

Originally Posted by Landshark

for me the main, main difference for work are the right speed, size of the buffer and the AF speed and accuracy of FF cameras over everything else, all the things that matter a lot when working but almost not at all when doing personall work

Bob, are the buffers and AF speed and accuracy necessarily better on full frame DSLRs or is it also true of high end APS DSLRs? I'd always been of the impression it was there in both, but I've got no personal experience, so I suppose I've just been guessing on that one. It seems that fast buffers and very fast and accurate PDAF could be done equally well regardless of sensor size, but even if it could be, maybe its NOT due to do the different market segments the products tend to be aimed at... If so, might the D600 fall down somewhat in these regards given that its targeted to a somewhat lower end full frame market?

-Ray

Originally Posted by Ray

Bob, are the buffers and AF speed and accuracy necessarily better on full frame DSLRs or is it also true of high end APS DSLRs? I'd always been of the impression it was there in both, but I've got no personal experience, so I suppose I've just been guessing on that one. It seems that fast buffers and very fast and accurate PDAF could be done equally well regardless of sensor size, but even if it could be, maybe its NOT due to do the different market segments the products tend to be aimed at... If so, might the D600 fall down somewhat in these regards given that its targeted to a somewhat lower end full frame market?

-Ray

Yes Ray I would say you are correct, the FF and the High end APS chip cameras would tend to have those features, they also shoot well while being tether to a computer which any of the more less "pro" versions do not, which is yet another feature I do not need when shooting my own work.

Originally Posted by Landshark

for me the main, main difference for work are the right speed, size of the buffer and the AF speed and accuracy of FF cameras over everything else, all the things that matter a lot when working but almost not at all when doing personall work

Oh yeah, the focus box really bugs me, much prefer focus points. Actually, I'd prefer to design my own camera sorta like buying a car. Despite all my ranting, I'm still sticking with µ4/3, I think it is an exceptional compromise/blend between FF dSLR's and P&S's. With every roll-out of new equipment, the gaps between what I want and what is available become smaller.

G

Originally Posted by Gary

Oh yeah, the focus box really bugs me, much prefer focus points. Actually, I'd prefer to design my own camera sorta like buying a car. Despite all my ranting, I'm still sticking with µ4/3, I think it is an exceptional compromise/blend between FF dSLR's and P&S's. With every roll-out of new equipment, the gaps between what I want and what is available become smaller.

G

I would love to able to trick out or modify my cameras just like I can with my car, guitar, bike or truck

Costco has the D600 (among other good high end cameras in stock and available to handle). I could not believe the size and weight of that camera. There is absolutely no way I would lug that around without a roller bag.

I got out of photography many decades ago, because my multi body and lens Nikon F film system got too bulky to fool with. The D600 with one zoom is twice the size and weight of a Nikon F with a trio of fast primes.

I have no doubt that it takes great images....but at what cost in convenience?

Perry

Originally Posted by pkincy

Costco has the D600 (among other good high end cameras in stock and available to handle). I could not believe the size and weight of that camera. There is absolutely no way I would lug that around without a roller bag.

I got out of photography many decades ago, because my multi body and lens Nikon F film system got too bulky to fool with. The D600 with one zoom is twice the size and weight of a Nikon F with a trio of fast primes.

I have no doubt that it takes great images....but at what cost in convenience?

Perry

My film Nikons all had motors, so not much dif in size/weight, between film and digital FF equipment. Between digital and film for what I shoot, there is a huge and significant difference in performance and ease of processing all in the favor of digital.

G

Yup, I will never go back. Too convenient and easy to develop and print with Lightroom and publish with Shutterfly rather than chemicals and an enlarger.

I very seldom kept the motor drive on the camera. Even then I was trying to keep weight and gear to a minimum. However my Nikon system came stateside. Overseas it was all Leica IIIgs and M3s. That was a light kit, but with all the modern complaints about fast autofocus I don't expect many of the young folks could even manage if you believe their posts on the gear forum.