[C&C] Am I a masochist to keep using this lens?

Discussion in 'Photo Critique' started by grebeman, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
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    Barrie
    Having been given a Kern Paillard Yvar 150mm, f/4 C mount lens a few weeks ago, along with 10mm, 20mm and 40mm extension tubes I just can't help myself in using it. The focusing range with the extension tubes fitted is very limited, focusing is best achieved by moving the camera, either when hand held or using a focusing rack when tripod mounted, with bigger adjustments requiring the repositioning of the tripod, so all rather time consuming and fiddly. Accurate focus really requires the use of the zoomed in focusing facility, so no grab shots with this set up.
    It's the quality of the results allied with the longer working distance (useful for insects but offset by the time required to set up) that keeps making me take it out.
    Here are a few from this morning for you to judge image quality, feedback appreciated. The camera used for all the shots was a Panansonic G1, no shots have been cropped. All shots tripod mounted except the last, which was hand held.

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    This was either 10mm or 20mm extension

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    50mm of extension

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    60mm of extension

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    20mm of extension

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    70mm of extension

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    20mm of extension

    Barrie
     
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  2. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo! Subscribing Member

    Sep 8, 2010
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    Looks like a cracking lens!! I am back to using my MF lenses more now!
     
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  3. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 12, 2010
    Philly, Pa
    Barrie, the images look superb. No question right?
    So it takes work to get the images. Moving the camera, the tripod, setting up etc... That all takes time.
    Barrie, what would you rather be doing with that time?
    I'm just curious.....
     
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  4. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    There's a slightly odd dreamy quality to these images (I don't mean that they are unsharp or contrastless or shaky) that makes them very appealing ... someone else might talk about a "creamy bokeh" but I hate the damn word ... I like them a lot, and if you can stand carrying on using the lens, I can stand carrying on looking at the results
     
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  5. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
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    Barrie
    Excellent thoughts there Don. BB knows a little about things that have been troubling me recently, lets say that after my two walks out yesterday, both with this lens I had the best nights sleep I've had in weeks. Equally other issues are swept from my concious and un-concious mind when I'm out there fiddling with all those variables. I don't have trains to catch and few pressures on my time, so yes, you're right Don, can't think what else I'd be doing, oh and the image quality is pretty good, perhaps something to do with lenses that were designed to correct aberrations and whatever on the drawing board, rather than in software, given that worth the effort and to hang with those that get away because I'm fiddling, what's a hobby if it's not for fiddling about. Thanks Don

    Barrie
     
  6. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
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    Barrie, beautifully put. Don knew how to ask the right question and you've got your answer. For those who've experienced this kind of time insensitive emersion in something we love, there's nothing like the freedom it brings. The few times I have been scuba diving, I felt this way... Now I can feel this way when I'm in my element photographing and even in post processing. It sounds to me as though you've come out the other side, Barrie. Your patience is clear through these definitely worth the time images. (Even if some are of spiders! :wink: )
     
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  7. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 12, 2010
    Philly, Pa
    Barrie, what are friends for but to show us the light....and how to spend money of course.
     
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  8. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
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    Barrie
    Part of the trick is knowing who and where your friends are, this forum and our cousins across the corridor fit that bill. Don I was given this lens, so a case of no money changing hands, don't you just like it when that happens.

    Sorry BB, I forgot the health warning on this thread :redface:

    You know this is the sort of masochism I could get to enjoy :smile: This is one of a series from this afternoon, 60mm extension tubes in use, no cropping.

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    Barrie
     
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  9. Lili

    Lili SC Hall of Famer

    Oct 17, 2010
    Dallas, TX
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    I love these images, Barrie.
    I understand very well about how this Art takes us outside ourselves and our troubles.
    HUGZ
     
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  10. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 12, 2010
    Philly, Pa
    Barrie, it's nice your back. You pay close attention to things most of us pass by. Your images bring forth a vision of detail I enjoy but don't see in that detail in my vision.
    So.... Now the the luvie dovie crapola is out of the way....
    Could you post combinations of the lens with the tubes? We are all curious to see that. All the combinations, Barrie. All the mathematical combinations.
    Don
     
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  11. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
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    Barrie
    Oh, the sting in the tail :smile:, a little project for tomorrow I think, leave it with me Don.

    Barrie
     
  12. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 12, 2010
    Philly, Pa
    Barrie, I already did my friend.....
     
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  13. HeatherTheVet

    HeatherTheVet SC All-Pro

    Apr 23, 2011
    Scotland
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    Heather
    I'd love to see the set up too. I'm looking into macro lenses at the moment so I can take pictures of the hairs on a flea and all that. My ideal plan is that the distance from the subject comes down to something like a foot so I can roll about on the ground taking pictures of flowers and worms instead of setting up the 210mm lense and shooting the same sort of picture but from 10 paces.

    Mud required.
     
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  14. nice collection

    The creepy crawlies sure make for some fun shots.

    The set up seems to be winning for you.
     
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  15. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 12, 2010
    Philly, Pa
    Hey guys, my grandson thinks youse make great photos and my stuff is boring.
    He wants youse to teach me to make cool pics of bugs..
    and Mud.....

    No joke...100% serious!
     
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  16. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
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    Barrie
    Duly done and covered in this thread Don, does that earn me a biscuit with my cup of tea?

    https://www.photographerslounge.org...taining-close-ups-using-extension-tubes-4391/

    Barrie
     
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  17. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
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    Barrie
    Now there's no excuse Don, lets see some of your creepie crawlies, and I'll go out and do some street stuff, oh what have I said :rolleyes:, got to find a street first, non round here :smile:, what do they look like?

    Barrie
     
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  18. christilou

    christilou SC Hall of Famer S.C. Charter Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    Sunny Frimley
    Barrie, the butterfly and flower pictures are superb! Not that I don't like the spider shots, just can't look at them too long for fear of nightmares :) You know how much I love a macro shot. There's also a lovely warmth to these photos and so I think your perseverance is justly rewarded. Don't stop!
     
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