Best camera for "native" capture of sky colors

Discussion in 'The Watering Hole' started by Jock Elliott, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    At first glance, this may seem a goofy or even stupid question.

    Recently I was tempted to enter a photo contest with some of my sky photos. Then I noticed that "No digital adjustments or enhancements are allowed."

    Most of my sky pix are adjusted for contrast and saturation to try to match the photo with what my eye perceived when I clicked the shutter.

    Here is an example. Here's the original (Taken with LX100), taken yesterday:

    LX100 Oakwood skies flowers 048.JPG

    Here's the tweaked version:

    LX100 Oakwood skies flowers 048 copy.

    Are there cameras that will get me closer to where I want to be without additional manipulation?

    Feel free to post untweaked examples.

    Cheers, Jock
  2. Tilman Paulin

    Tilman Paulin SC Top Veteran

    Nov 15, 2011
    Portland, OR
    Sorry, I won't be able to help, but I'm just wondering about this rule and how they can 'enforce' it these days...

    You can do a LOT of digital adjustments with all the different in-camera-settings (vivid, portrait, neutral,...), in-camera-HDRs, and tweakable tone-curves and saturation-, sharpness-, contrast-settings, etc.
    In short, simply using out-of-camera jpgs won't stop any digital enhancements...

    Maybe they are referring to actual manipulations, like removing objects, or combining a different sky with a landscape, etc. ?
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  3. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
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    I agree with Tilman. If they mean for the letter of their rule to be followed (which frankly is ridiculous), then they should only accept raw files.

    I would say that your second one should be allowable.... you haven't changed anything in the photo that couldn't have been changed in the camera (maybe). I mean, your Panasonics can be configured to output more saturated jpegs or to lift shadows or add contrast.

    I'm not qualified to answer your question Jock, but my guess would be whatever camera has the widest dynamic range since a lot of your images that is the biggest challenge. And then it would just be down to experimentation to see what setting you need to adjust in the camera to get the output you like.

    I'd just tell 'em they can go stuff their competition that ties your hands behind your back. I wonder if they would turn down submissions from Ansel Adams because he dodged and burned bits of Yosemite.
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  4. bilzmale

    bilzmale Super Moderator Emeritus

    Jul 17, 2010
    Perth, Western Australia
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    Bill Shinnick
    Do they accept jpgs which of course are 'manipulated' in camera? Silly rule in this day and age.
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  5. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
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    Bill Palmer
    Born of ignorance, I suspect. In the past, when I ran competitions, I restricted manipulations to those which could have been done in a darkroom. I think that's a fair compromise.
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