Best sound quality in a fixed lens compact?

Discussion in 'Open Gear Talk' started by Steven, Aug 22, 2013.

  1. Steven

    Steven New to SC

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    Aug 22, 2013
    Yesterday, I was forced to check in my Panasonic GX1 with lenses for the second time in a row in a concert venue. "No interchangeable lens cameras" is the new standard for bigger venues it seems :mad:

    So now, I am looking for a compact with fixed lens that has good built-in microphones so that video sound will not break and crackle under amplified volume of a typical rock concert. GX1 has fabulous built in mic and the sound is full and delicious. It seems that Panasonic really puts in the good stuff, so I am considering LX7, which according to some youtube videos and comments also has good mics.

    I really hoped to try something with a longer lens though.
    According to my research, Sony RX100 and Fuji X100 both have mics that cannot handle loud sounds. I have not been able to find any info on Olympus XZ series. Does anyone have any experience with Fuji XF, Pentax mx-1, or X10/20 with loud concerts? Am I missing anything?

    Thank you.

    Update:
    found really bad sounding XZ1 video on youtube, so that one is out.
    found decent Pentax MX1 video, but it could've been a not very loud event. Also, I'd like to avoid that one because it's thick as a brick :)
     
  2. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    The mic on the X100 is decent enough, but the video is so jittery that I literally pull out a 4 year old tiny Canon p&s (or my iphone) if I want video, UNLESS I can put the camera down and not move it during the video. Thus, it don't really matter how good the sound is on the Fuji, you'd never use it for video for other reasons.
     
  3. Steven

    Steven New to SC

    5
    Aug 22, 2013
    well, I am used to handholding various unstabilized manual focus lenses with the GX1, so it's not a big problem for me, like below.
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    I am not crazy about other aspects of the X100 video mode, like no ability to focus during. Does anyone know if it's helpful to tape some kind of covering material over the mic on the camera to prevent the crackling?
    the 3X digital teleconverter on X100 should be really handy for concert videos though. I'll give it another try one of these days.
     
  4. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    The issue with the X100's video is, as I understand it, the "back-lit" sensor. And here we reach the end of my specific knowledge on that problem -- I know the sensor is just NOT good at rendering smooth motion whatsoever. The problem is sometimes called "dithering" I think. I am tempted to go take a sample and show you.
     
  5. Steven

    Steven New to SC

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    Aug 22, 2013
    Ahh, I did not know about the sensor issues. It's a new camera to me. I assumed you were referring to the unstabilized lens or lack of in-body stabilization. I will research it further. Thanks.
     
  6. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    It's the sensor. It just struggles to show motion cleanly.
     
  7. romi.gilles

    romi.gilles SC Veteran

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    Jun 8, 2013
    idk anymore. all over the country.
    romi gilles
    get the steadicam smoothee for it.

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