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Discussion in 'The Watering Hole' started by Lightmancer, Feb 27, 2015.

  1. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
  2. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    I see blue and black. You?
     
  3. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    Hmm this isn't exactly "news" except in DailyTelegraph world
    It's first-term philosophy stuff.

    bah humbug. kids today etc
     
  4. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    In THAT link I see blue and black. But the version I saw on TV this morning I saw as white and gold - the news anchors were arguing over the same image, some seeing it as black and blue, others as gold and white. I saw gold and white - this one I definitely see as blue and black.

    And then there were those loose llamas running around in Arizona. Between the two of them, they pretty much broke the internet. Ironically, I didn't see either of them online, but on TV this morning...

    -Ray
     
  5. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I can only see it as blue and black. And there is so much noise surrounding the phenomena, that I can not find an explanation of why so many people see it "wrong".
     
  6. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    I read an article about the dress this morning, and an interesting thing happened.
    At first I saw the photo, and I had a slight preference for blue and black (although some parts seemed gold), but I could definitely see how people might perceive it as a white dress hit by blue-ish light. Then I scrolled down, and saw a photo of the manufacturer, showing it as blue and black. When I scrolled up again, I couldn't for the life of me imagine how anyone would ever consider the possibility of the dress being white; it was so obviously blue, and I couldn't fool my brain into thinking it was white at all. Strange...
     
  7. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Sadly, I see blue and gold. Seriously.
     
  8. Briar

    Briar SC All-Pro

    Oct 27, 2010
    Scotland
    Karen
    White and gold for me.
     
  9. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    well I had never seen the "original" photo, but after seeing this...... http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/ I now understand that it is a white balance issue.....not people actually seeing things differently. Because the WB is off, it's actually halfway between the two and the viewer is left to interpret the photo. I had only seen the WB corrected shot all day long and was wondering who the loonies were that said it was gold and white.
     
  10. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Ah, internet. Sometimes you amaze me with the knowledge you contain, but mostly you just make me wonder about the trivial things that these strange creatures called humans (and their blogger overlords) get worked up about.

    P.S. I must have been done that hole. It was awesome; I got so much work done this week.
     
  11. EasyEd

    EasyEd SC Regular

    143
    Dec 22, 2010
    Hey All,

    Like Freud I see a rear end! :dance2: A black and blue rear end! Hmmm. wonder what all that means psycho? :laugh1:

    -Ed-
     
  12. SnapDawg

    SnapDawg Rorschach Test Pilot

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    Apr 18, 2014
    Canary Islands
    Ken
    Back in my college years I worked a year or so on spectral analysis of rare earth pigments. My colleague could determine peak wavelengths with his eyes down to +-1-2nm. One glance and voila. Freaking amazing. So that's what I automatically looked for first in that image, the peak wavelengths. Then I ran it through a image analyzer and again I guess my colleague would have been closer o_O
     
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  13. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    I agree with you on an awful lot of stuff Nic, but this one I find absolutely fascinating on so many levels. The science of how our eyes perceive the light is interesting, and provides a fully plausible explanation for the differing perceptions. According to Buzzfeed, about 70% of people (including me) saw the dress as white and gold. Which it's not, but that's almost beside the point. The thing that's even more interesting to me, though, is the psychology behind the reactions to it. Taylor Swift found it really frightening that people could see it so differently than her when it was so obvious to her that it was blue/black. People have really gone into camps of absolutism on this, which to me is the most interesting thing. I just find it rather confirming that we all see EVERYTHING so differently. It gives me some small amount of comfort regarding the completely polarized political climate in the US, if not everywhere. We're all so damn sure we're right and those on the other side are so clearly wrong. I'm actually comforted by the thought that perception is so variable and easily fooled - it allows me to look at those fellow humans who I'm so thoroughly alarmed by and angered by in a different light and realize they just literally SEE things differently than I do and I may be every bit as "wrong" as I perceive them to be...

    Another wonderful example of the visual tricks we can play on ourselves is this checkerboard illustration, where squares A and B are exactly the same shade of gray, but fully appear to be opposites. I can't get past this one at ALL - it's absolutely inexplicable yet also so obviously true... Sometimes I like coming face to face with my own, and all of our, limitations...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checke...aviewer/File:Grey_square_optical_illusion.PNG

    -Ray
     
  14. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
  15. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Reality is for people who can't handle drugs... :biggrin:
     
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  16. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    If I understand it correctly, some of the people who saw it as white and gold in one photo or on TV later saw it as blue and black when shown a different photo. Can someone please embed an image where you feel it looks white and gold? Because I've only seen one "version", and the blue looks very blue in that version.
     
  17. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    This is from the Wired article Luke linked to above. The middle image is the one that sparked all of the controversy, surrounded by versions that are more clearly white/gold and blue/black. I saw and still see the middle one as white/gold, although a darker version of white/gold than the left one, and with a slightly bluish tint to the "white" part. The right one is the only one I see as blue and black...

    Untitled-12-660x334 by ramboorider1, on Flickr

    -Ray
     
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  18. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    Here's an interesting article by the Flickr team. They argue that it's due to the different temperature light sources in the photo (natural daylight, and warm indoor lighting); different people assume different light sources to be the "normal" one, and therefore their brains correct for the other light source to make the dress look, what they assume to be, the way it really should look.

    http://blog.flickr.net/en/2015/02/27/whats-going-on-with-thedress/
     
  19. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    How does everyone like the new white and gold site skin?
     
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