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Canon EOS-M Officially Announced

Discussion in 'Open Gear Talk' started by Amin Sabet, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
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  2. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    First report I found on autofocus performance was from the German language site futurezone.at: Technology-News


    Google translated text:



    Source: Hands-On mit Canons erster Systemkamera EOS M | Produkte | futurezone.at: Technology-News


    The 650D in Live View is very slow to AF so this camera being even slower could prove to be a real problem.

    Fortunately, a much more promising hands on account comes from PC World Australia:

    Looks nice in white IMO:

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  3. wolfie

    wolfie SC Veteran

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    Sep 19, 2010
    Doesn't look bad, but then it also aint anything special - and at the high range E-P3 price without offering anywhere like serious/enthusiast camera controls, only Canon fans are going to rush out to finance the R&D costs ... hopefully the follow on model should be more noteworthy.
     
  4. Amin Sabet

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    Jul 3, 2010
  5. flikmy

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  6. Olivier Duong

    Olivier Duong SC Regular

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    Jul 16, 2012
    Like Wolfie said, the lack of controls gives up the target market. I'm ranting on do we seriously need another mount?
     
  7. Chris2500dk

    Chris2500dk SC Top Veteran

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    Dec 22, 2011
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    The AF speed alone makes this camera completely uninteresting to me. Shame really, but maybe they can tweak the firmware to improve things.
     
  8. wolfie

    wolfie SC Veteran

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    Sep 19, 2010
    Contradictory AF performances

    Odd how some sites are saying the AF is slow and an Australian one says it is really fast ...:confused:
     
  9. Chris2500dk

    Chris2500dk SC Top Veteran

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    Dec 22, 2011
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    This is looking mightly slow to me.
     
  10. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    The first tap is probably inside the minimum focus distance, but the second one just looks like slow AF. Hopefully it will be faster than that.
     
  11. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    Canon really isn't bringing anything new to the market, but based on brand reputation it'll probably sell loads of them. Hope a more enthusiast-oriented offering is just around the corner...
     
  12. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    I've no problem with the basic specs and size of this camera, and a touchscreen interface was right up near the top of my list of wants. Autofocus speed will be the make-or-break for me. Aside from one sentence from one review by a non-specialist camera website, I'm seeing nothing encouraging about the autofocus. I just don't understand why Canon would be just about the only company not to figure out how to make a fast live-view autofocus system.
     
  13. Ernie

    Ernie SC Rookie

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    Mar 29, 2012
    Not really. Keep in mind that the people doing those first impressions and reviews are mere mortals, too. It's always subjective, and the first impressions depend heavily on the conditions. You really shouldn't make any kind of conclusion yet, based on the very first press release impressions alone. Especially ones (apparently) based on pre-production models and non-final firmware.

    None of those reviewers have had a chance to do a proper in-depth review yet, and their comments are based on a few minutes playing with it in some typical hotel function room or company showroom. Whilst one reviewer is trying the AF merely by shuffling the focus point between several fixed, well lit and high contrast targets, like the Canon gear on the table, another reviewer may be trying it on moving targets further away, like fellow members of the media in dim lighting conditions, which will most certainly result to very different first impressions. Typical CAF can be fast, but unreliable. Apparently the camera has a typical CAF system. (edit: apparently the camera does have the in-sensor PAF, after all, the same introduced in the latest EOS DSLR)
    I'm not sure which lens is attached in that Italian video but, looked like the subject was relatively close, and it looked more like typical CAF hunt within close enough distance, rather than slow AF in general.

    As for the Canon EOS-M itself, meh, not really exited in one way or another. Looks like another me too camera into the already rather saturated mirrorless mainstream.
     
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  14. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    From dpreview preview:

    Canon EOS M hands-on preview: Digital Photography Review
    Size comparison to GF3:
    http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/images/sidebyside-eos-m-gf3.jpg

    and with the new 40mm lens and the adapter:
    http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/images/mount-adapter.jpg
     
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  15. Isoterica

    Isoterica SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 6, 2011
    With Canon introducing all that they have in the last few months one has to wonder if there is anything special left come Photokina.. maybe the treasure we are looking for will emerge then. As much as I am leaning towards a smaller camera and do not want to give up my macro lenses, this camera's adapter making that possible, it just.. hmm.. didn't smack me between the eyes screaming buy me. Maybe after someone takes the plunge and shows what it can do. Also thinking I am becoming numb to all the advertisements which is good, no GAS, but.. being bored is actually a bit disturbing :D
     
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  16. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    It's a tad late to be bringing a gf1 to market, isn't it?
     
  17. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    Hard to know what DPR mean when they say the 18-55 focuses "pretty quickly" and the 22 "slower", but overall I'd say that is encouraging compared to the Italian video, which makes the focus look as slow as can be.

    Thanks for the GF3 size comparison, Serhan. The Canon looks to be about the same size as my GX1, which is a really nice size IMO. I think this looks like a really nice start for Canon mirrorless.

    EDIT: Copied from DPR preview comments:
     
  18. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    Here's what Imaging Resource had to say (source):