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Canon G17 - 1" sensor w/- 24-200mm f/1.4-2.0 lens!!! Hmmm...

Discussion in 'Other >= 1" Sensor Cameras' started by stillshunter, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. stillshunter

    stillshunter Super Moderator Emeritus

    Nov 5, 2010
    Down Under
    Mark
    "According to latest rumors Canon is rumored to announce G17 camera with BIG 1 inch sensor and new bright f/1.4-2.0 aperture zoom lens, take a look at the rumored specification
    […]
    24-200mm f/1.4-2.0 lens
    New 1″ Sensor
    all magnesium body with comfortable grip
    DIGIC 6"


    Sounds almost too good to be true….and/or stands to cannibalise Canon's own imminent release of the G1Xii :hmmm:
     
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  2. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I think the 1" sensor part of this rumor is incorrect.an f1.4-2.0 lens with that zoom range to cover that sensor would need to be a lot bigger. I'll believe it when I see it.
     
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  3. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    No, that would be the same sensor and zoom range of the RX10 with a considerably faster lens. The RX10 is a pretty big DSLR type body. Hard to see this one being smaller with that spec... I'd guess it's a 1/1.7" spec, same as the other cameras in the G series...

    -Ray
     
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  4. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    Let us hope that they are smart enough to include a viewfinder of some sort.

    Cheers, Jock
     
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  5. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    I'd bet it will be the same old crappy, tiny, mostly useless tunnel VF. Not EVF, not even proper optical.
     
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  6. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    You may very well be right, Sue. But Nikon seems to have seen the light, at least somewhat, with its P7800, which has an EVF and a 28-200mm zoom range at f/2.0-4.0. Canon and Nikon are like Honda and Toyota: Locked in a holy war. There's no way Canon will not respond to the P7800 and attempt to outdo it. Yes, it'll probably be the latest 1/1.7" sensor but who knows what we'll get in terms of a lens, aperture and viewfinder.
     
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  7. dougjgreen

    dougjgreen SC Regular

    110
    Jan 10, 2014
    There's no way a lens like that will be fitted to a 1" sensor - the lens would be twice the size of the one on the Sony RX10. So it might be serious, but it surely wouldn't be compact. Either the lens spec or the sensor spec on that rumor is wrong, because that lens alone will weigh well over 2 pounds if it were true.
     
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  8. Fiddler

    Fiddler SC Veteran

    241
    Dec 5, 2010
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Colin
    It was the viewfinder that made me turn away from the G series. I'd rather have no OVF than a bad one.
     
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  9. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    I wouldn't be totally shocked if it has no built-in viewfinder but is compatible with the same detachable viewfinder that was announced with the G1X Mark II. It might depend on the size and form factor of the camera but then the Sony RX100 Mark II is tiny and yet still offers the ability to attach a relatively large viewfinder.
     
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  10. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    With respect, I go the other way: I'd rather have a bad OVF than none. I've proven to myself that I can shoot steadier with the camera pressed against my face.

    That made shots like this one from the G12 possible:

    G12_Sage_night_009-001_Medium_.JPG

    But . . . different strokes for different folks.:biggrin:

    Cheers, Jock
     
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  11. Fiddler

    Fiddler SC Veteran

    241
    Dec 5, 2010
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Colin
    I take your point. I prefer shooting with a viewfinder myself, unless the camera is on the tripod. I use hotshoe mounted OVFs on my Sigmas and that works well enough. They cost me £340/$566, which is about the price of a half-decent camera, but it's worth it for a more pleasant shooting experience and better results.
     
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  12. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    This is true. but I still wont be interested, even with an EVF, unless they also bring back the vari-angle LCD screen. I used to use mine on my G11, a *lot*. Its awkward in that it has to flip out to the side, but I still prefer it to the tilting screen which is why I have never bought a camera (since my abortive attempt to like the Nikon P100) with a tilter.
     
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  13. ReD

    ReD SC Hall of Famer

    Mar 27, 2013
    Absolutey agree with Jock its the extra steadiness of holding against the face that counts for me
    plus in bright light you at least know what you are pointing at rather than looking at your own bad hairdo on the lcd
     
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  14. Archiver

    Archiver SC Top Veteran

    618
    Jul 11, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    If the lens is as long as is purported with a 1" sensor, it would be something in the league of the Sony RX10 and more like a superzoom. That's a completely different camera from the G series. And if they managed to make it more the size of the G1X II, it would cause some confusion in the buying public, as there would be less to distinguish them, physically.
     
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  15. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
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  16. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    Didnt know that one. I wasnt looking at cameras til a couple of years later, even though I had my Kodak DC5000. Looks like it might have been very decent. Even worth having now.
     
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  17. stillshunter

    stillshunter Super Moderator Emeritus

    Nov 5, 2010
    Down Under
    Mark
    :clapping: Good call mate!

    There's some specs here that would even get us excited today..
    - Magnesium alloy
    • 2/3" sensor
    • RAW
    • 7x optical zoom "L-series"
    • 28 - 200 mm equiv.
    • 40 steps from wide to telephoto
    • F2.4 - F3.5
    • 14 elements in 10 groups, 1 fluorite, 1 UD glass, 2 aspherical elements
     
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  18. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    On the Canon forums at photography-on-the.net I've read the occasional lament even in the last few years that that camera was never updated. The specs on this rumoured new Canon got me thinking about it.
     
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  19. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    ReD,

    There was a review on DPreview last year (I think) in which they highly rated a "rugged" camera but complained that the rear screen was very difficult to see in bright sunlight (and no viewfinder). I asked the reviewer how it could be so highly rated when this appeared to be as close to a fatal flaw in a camera as I could imagine. I mean, you really DO need to see what you are shooting . . . or at least I do.

    Cheers, Jock
     
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  20. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    If you're a lousy photographer it may actually be an advantage.:tongue:

    I can shoot short lenses <25 comfortably off a non-tilting rear screen. But the EM5 has really reminded me how often I will actually use an EVF if I have one.