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Discussion in 'Other >= 1" Sensor Cameras' started by darksaint, Oct 24, 2014.
The same score as the Olympus E-M5.
Wow, kind of shocking it's right up at or better than m43 levels for everything except low light and not exactly getting slayed there either... That said, this is one of those numbers that favors the G7X over the RX100 III that I guarantee that some folks are gonna make a big deal of, but it's really not that big a difference. It's basically the same sensor with basically the same capabilities.
Where has Canon stated that this uses a Sony sensor?
when I look at those results, it just makes me want to buy the original RX100......assuming one factors in the best price that one can find on the 3 cameras. Those scores are pretty identical to me.
No doubt the original RX100 is a high value option right now. You can find them for $300 without too much effort. The big difference, of course, is that you lose that fast lens pretty quickly. May not be worth it for the upcharge for many, but once you have the 100/2.8 of the G7X it is kind of tough to go back. I've considered it. :smile:
They haven't stated it, but every tech site that's gotten it's hands on one is quite sure of it, given the overwhelming similarities. And Sony has definitely started selling them - the FZ1000 uses the same sensor and it was widely assumed the LX8 would until that became the LX100 with the 4/3 chip...
for sure..... I was just looking at these scores in a vacuum. Which is one reason I never really look at test scores are lens charts. I shouldn't even look at these kinds of threads.
I'm finally getting to the point where I really couldn't care less about the measureables of a camera. How does it feel...how does it sound.... are the menus laid out intuitively....do the buttons and dials fall to hand.....can I use the camera to take the kind of photos I like to take. Those are all much more important to the end results I get (or if I'll even get the shot at all).
I'm with you in a lot of ways here Luke - at least among similar format cameras (still a difference between full frame and everything else that I can get worked up about). But by that standard, have you shot with an original RX100? Because the chief complaint against it among many "enthusiasts", myself included, we're all about those shooting intangibles. For sure some people liked it and it can make great images, but it's interface seemed to bother a lot of people. So while its a great dollar for dollar value these days - I'd basically give you mine but my wife still gets some use out of it - it may fail the one test you say matters. At which point it's a bargain for some, but still overpriced if you don't enjoy shooting with it...
You're absolutely right. I had one and did NOT like the shooting experience. That's why I kind of backpedaled out of my statement. Although having just said that, I wouldn't like shooting with any of these 3 cameras, but if I wanted something semi-pocketable, I WOULD just buy the old one. So for me as a MAIN camera, I gotta love the way it shoots. As a pocketable back-up camera, I'd go the thrifty route.
Of course, everyone uses different variables to decide which one is best. I just think that since we're living in 2014 and not 2008, these DXO marks mean very little anymore.....at least to me (and it sounds like you, too)
For me, a pocketable backup camera almost needs to be MORE dialed in - they face so many challenges for my attention already that if they're not really fun to shoot with, I might never take them off the shelf...
I wouldn't say that DXO means very little, but small differences like these mean basically nothing. One of the reasons I never considered the G1X mkII was because of is extremely low DR number though - I know that for how I process my stuff, DR is my best friend and that older sensor doesn't have it. Otherwise I might have bought one of those a while ago - I absolutely love that 24-120 zoom range...
It's funny, the RX100 and G7X almost look like twins, but somehow the 7 is a noticeable notch above in handling, UI, haptics...whatever. Can't just be the EC dial, can it? I got along OK with the original RX100, but when I picked up the m3 I somehow hoped the EVF would add to the overall experience and elevate the camera. Not so much for me. But I'm good with the G7X.