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Discussion in 'Hot Deals - Find a Great Deal? Share It Here.' started by wt21, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
  2. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    Where might the deal be? I'm not buying, but somebody might want to?
     
  3. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    Forgot the URL! Just pasted it in. eBay seller buydig located in NJ
     
  4. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    Good! I thought you were keeping them all for youself, lol...
     
  5. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    If you do, let know what you want for the flash.
     
  6. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    that's a stunningly low price!
     
  7. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    It seems to indicate that the seller is buydig. If that's so, they're legit.

    EDIT: But, as fabulous a deal as this is, is it any better than my Olympus E-PM2 with 42mm kit zoom and 17mm prime?
     
  8. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Which 17?
     
  9. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I love the old 17mm.
     
  10. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Just curious. :smile: I have the old one as well. I was just trying to work out the comparative prices of the M kit vs. the aforementioned E-PM2 kit.
     
  11. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    I guess the new 17/1.8 is the price of this EOS M kit on it's own.
     
  12. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I think he's working out whether he needs it if he already has a similar kit in a different sensor size. Should he buy into another system with a kit zoom and a nice normal prime because the price is great if he already has several systems that are similar.
     
  13. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Steve asks a very interesting question. Those kits as very similar. Sensors may be a wash. The PM2 has a big edge in AF and can take an accessory EVF, including the amazing vf4. Similar size. I think the Canon has a slight edge in touchscreen interface but no big deal. I really can't call the zoom comparison. I really like the 22 f2 however, and I would give it the edge over the old 17. I've never tried the new 17 so I can't compare. I really can't call this one, although I'd probably take the PM2 kit and then feel remorseful.
     
  14. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    For whatever reason people seem to gravitate towards new bodies when most forum regulars know that glass is the best investment.

    I won't stop Steve from buying this Canon kit if he wants a new toy, but he has PLENTY of great kits already and buying the Canon will not fill a need he doesn't have covered. And it's not an appreciable upgrade in any one category and actually a step down in a few.

    Who IS this Canon kit built for? As a system, we have no idea if it will ever be completed. So for a value seeker who likes a big sensor compact system and can live with slow AF and no viewfinder....is that the only target demographic? If you remove that fast(ish) prime, there is nothing that recommends this "system" over many others.
     
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  15. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    Having used both EPM2 + EOS-M, here are my comparisons, some of it subjective:

    I would think the EPM2 + 17/2.8 might be just a touch more money than the M kit. Maybe by like $50.

    The would be very comparatively sized. The EPM2 + bundled flash might be a hair smaller than the M with it's bundled flash.

    The EPM2 would be faster to shoot with. The ISO of each is very close. DR is pretty close in my practical experience when pulling highlights back in RAW, though the EPM2 rates as a bit higher. http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Ca...and)/Olympus/(appareil2)/819|0/(brand2)/Canon DXO Mark gives the EPM2 1 stop of DR over the Canon at ISO 200 and 400, and says they are about equal after ISO800, though the EOS-M has an ISO100, with the same DR as ISO200.

    I prefer the 22mm lens over the 17/2.8 or the 17/1.8. Bokeh, color, etc. I really like this 22.

    I find I can get color from the EOS-M that I prefer over what I could get from the EPM2 (I found I had to work both in post). I can saturate colors, and brighten and darken images more easily without hue shifts on the EOS-M.

    If you are happy with the EPM2 + 17/2.8, then it's not likely worth the change. The EOS-M does get you 1 stop faster with the 22/2, ISO100 and maybe just a bit more shallower DOF if desired. For me, it was about 2 things: trying something different after 4 years with m43, and the 22mm lens.

    Just MO.
     
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  16. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    I picked up the original EOS M deal ($299 for the body and the 22) as an alternative to a more expensive APS-C compact. This has been good for me especially since I like the 35 mm equiv. FL better. It makes a nice alternative to the E-M5. I also find the raw files from the M easy to work with. Of course, if I now end up carrying the XF1 everywhere, the M could see little action.
     
  17. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    I have the new 17mm pancake. But it's a fair question with the old lens as well, given a good cost-benefit analysis.
     
  18. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Exactly. If I bought this Canon kit - which is a fabulous deal - I would be buying it only because it's a fabulous deal, not because I really needed it. It's fun to think about but no sale in my case. In fact, I really don't "need" any new gear right now. But I have my longer-term sights set on a Fuji X100 or X100s and/or possibly a Ricoh GR. Those cameras are pretty unique and neither would involve buying into a new system, as they are fixed-lens propositions.