Facebook rights heads up

Discussion in 'The Watering Hole' started by vincechu, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. vincechu

    vincechu SC Veteran

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    Sep 14, 2010
    Hey everyone, I was just uploading a few photos to Facebook and noticed this in Facebooks T&C's (see bold point 2.1):

    Its making me think twice about uploading my fav snaps to FB - i'll probably link to flickr instead.

    Off topic: if anyone's interested I did a serious upload of 100+ pics to my flickr yesterday - and I'd appreciate some C&C :) Later tonight I'll post some to the forums in a few of the image threads but in the mean time I'm workin on essays and exam revision :frown:

    Anyway back to my studies i go
     
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  2. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    Thanks for this Vince. Although I am not much of a Facebook user, I know many are. It's important to be aware of privacy rights.

    Re your C&C, when you have time, post a couple you are interested in getting feedback on in our new Photo Critique forum which is in the Image Works section.

    Get back to those books, Vince and best wishes on your final weeks!:th_salute:
     
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  3. Mayank

    Mayank SC Veteran

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    I was not happy with FaceBook's privacy either, simple things like how easy it was for any friend or contact to share my photos with their friends and have therefore deleted all my photographs from FaceBook. Thanks for pointing this out, reaffirms my decision!
     
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  4. vincechu

    vincechu SC Veteran

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    Sep 14, 2010
    Thanks BB for pointing the critique section out BB, I'll definately be posting there when I find the time as recently I've been feeling very compelled to improve my skills, especially after my k5 purchase in Feb.
     
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  5. LisaO

    LisaO SC Regular

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    Jul 11, 2010
    FB is way too overreaching on their lack of privacy and respect for individual rights. I find it amazing that there have not been big lawsuits against them or at least some monopoly legislation. I have a feeling it's going have to be some catastrophic event to get something to move against it. It's a catch 22, you have to be there because everyone is there. There really is no alternative. They know everything about everyone.

    I only post snap shots and not any serious photos there.
     
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  6. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Yep, casual shots only on facebook.

    I did however find two of my flickr photos linked (not by me) through a website the other day here and here which I don't quite know if it breaches the copyrights on flickr. They are only small versions and provide a link back to flickr.
     
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  7. Mayank

    Mayank SC Veteran

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  8. christilou

    christilou SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2010
    Sunny Frimley
    I don't post any pics on fb. I was sent info to sign up for an app that allows them free access to all my pics at any time and I just thought "no, I don't think so!" I only have fb so that I can talk to my stepsister in New Zealand from time to time. Can't see any other use for it at all!
     
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  9. BillN

    BillN SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 25, 2010
    S W France
    Bill
    I would never use Facebook - one of my big regrets is that I have not persuaded my two, (grown up), children to act likewise - i.e. not to use it

    The collection of that much "personal data" in this "day and age" will only be used, someday, for "no good" by devious individuals and organisations

    after seeing the film - "social network" - I dislike the concept, (and the creator - if the film is remotely true to life?), even more and see it as some kind of "universal dating agency" and that would be a polite description.

    I am sure that it has many "good points" but to me the potential "negatives" outweigh these
     
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  10. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    Mayank, thanks for the link to The Economist. I'll read it later and no doubt send it to my daughter. I have a feeling after I read it, I'll be even more appalled.

    I can see certain reasons why people who are truly friends, enjoy it and find some value...but there's so much not to like and/or be concerned about.
     
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  11. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 12, 2010
    Philly, Pa
    I hate FB. I have it but really don't use it.
    I would never load images up there except my face.
    Tooooo much info!
     
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  12. Mayank

    Mayank SC Veteran

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    I am usually on FaceBook all day. Since I work from home and do not have any work colleagues, FaceBook fills the gap and allows me to stay in touch with friends all across the globe! FaceBook is also awesome for staying up-to-date with celebrities (say Britney Spears and Pamela Anderson), news websites (like Faking News) and with Politicians (to tell them exactly what they are doing wrong, not that it helps). The trick is to put minimum data/info about yourself there and use privacy settings well. I agree with Bill, the movie (Social Network) made me dislike FB more than I wanted to! Their photo sharing system is fabulous though, if they amend their copyright terms and put more privacy features in place, I might put up my photos there again. I think it's still the best or easiest way of sharing photos with friends/relatives and getting their feedback/comments.
     
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  13. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    Thanks for your views, Mayank. I am sure that my daughter feels much as you do. Some of us are curmudgeons and don't always get "it". When my daughter is home and she shows me her friend Yuki's artwork or his movies via Facebook, I love seeing them... I think that some of us have seen the tiresome side...where some people seem to like to discuss just about every thought in their head or snack they've eaten.

    When I see it used in certain ways, I can see the value.
     
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  14. LisaO

    LisaO SC Regular

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    FB is a good way to keep in touch with old friends and new. It's like a living yearbook. Young people are less concerned with privacy than older people are, it's just they way things are, those 30 and younger have always had the internet their entire lives, everything is instant. It would be very unusual to find someone under 30 who is not on FB. The older the individual the less FB friends one is likely to have, the average 25 year old will have 500 or 1000 or more, practically everyone they have met, a person in their 40's or 50's maybe 50-200. For a young person it is more socially dangerous not to be on FB than to be on it.

    Sharing photos is only part of what they do, they share your information about what you like and what you do with businesses that pay them. That is why it is free, they are not looking at you directly but you as a conglomerate of people in your age group or area etc.

    I wont post anything but snapshots to FaceBook, I'll put them on Flickr and then post a link to Facebook. A forum like this is something like FaceBook in a limited and less privacy invading way. We post photos and ideas here, it is shared here forever for anyone to see.
     
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  15. AzPete

    AzPete SC Veteran

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    Dec 24, 2010
    I too am a FB user of sorts. Not heavy but just use it to keep in touch with family, as I have no real friends in life, haha :rolleyes: but I do use it to promote my website.
    Thanks all for the info here. Going to read up and be just alittle more careful about what I put on the web. Great thread....

    Cheers, Pete
     
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  16. vincechu

    vincechu SC Veteran

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    Sep 14, 2010
    Thanks for all the replies to my post everyone - I love how this has turned into a very meaningful discussion, there have been some very good points made here.

    I love the idea of Facebook as I have friends from all corners of the world and it definately helps me to keep in contact with them, something I'm very greatful for. However as others have pointed out, there are a number of privacy issues and you need to ensure you set your security/privacy settings well, and more importantly (IMO) avoid putting information on FB that you wouldn't tell strangers (Sorry I'm pretty much repeating you Mayank). Related to that is to only accept friend requests from people you know - I find it baffling that people will accept requests from strangers, allowing them full access to your information/photos, although I know that people (such as some of my friends) will accept requests to look more popular.

    I think Facebook kind of reflects the kind of surveillance/information society that we live in today, especially of the younger generation. I have to admit my generation (around 21 years of age) are too laid back when it comes to some of the issues mentioned here in this thread, and unfortunately it seems worse with young teens these days.

    EDIT: the Economist article is exactly what I refer to when I say surveillance society. An interesting thing that has been raised in some of my lectures at university (about surveillance and Foucault) is that Facebook has been used by employers to judge job applicants, and there was a debate about whether this should be allowed on radio.
     
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  17. Djarum

    Djarum SC All-Pro

    Jul 10, 2010
    Huntsville, AL
    Jason
    I don't even have an account and I'm reasonably tech savy. My girlfriend uses it quite a bit. I like the idea. The problem is that you don't have control of the privacy. I think i'd be better off. Setting up my own server for such a thing and only let my friends and family access.

    I also wonder if a pay site would be more secure than a free site.

    What happened with live journal?myspace?
     
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  18. Mayank

    Mayank SC Veteran

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    Jul 16, 2010
    India
    Some lovely thoughts about using FaceBook here! Thank you, everyone!

    BTW, that Britney Spears and Pamela Anderson thing was a joke, I am not into such stuff, I am more of a yoga person :hail:
     
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  19. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
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    Mayank, you can't fool us!:biggrin: Actually when I read those comments about the two entertainers in question...for a split second, I wondered...:wink: I did get a good chuckle.

    Good thread!
     
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  20. BillN

    BillN SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 25, 2010
    S W France
    Bill
    whose Pamela Spears and Britney Anderson?