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Featured Forum Post: 'The Amazing Versatility of the LX7'

Discussion in 'Open Gear Talk' started by Ray Sachs, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Spent the weekend with family in Baltimore. I took the LX7 and EPL5 with the new 17mm f1.8 lens for low light. I did some street shooting with both. I continue to be amazed by the versatility of the LX7. With its various focal lengths (I keep it on step zoom, so its like having 6 prime lenses from 24 to 90 in the bag) and various aspect ratios and its fast lens, I havent' found much I can't do with it. The EPL5 was better in low light, but the LX7 isn't bad at all. And to me, its just a blast to walk around shooting with. Here are a variety from the LX7:

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    -Ray
     
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  2. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    Love those light streaks!
     
  3. Gary

    Gary SC All-Pro

    Aug 19, 2012
    Southern California
    Gary Ayala
    +1 on the flare.
     
  4. dixeyk

    dixeyk Guest

    Beautiful work Ray. I've always had a soft spot for point and shoot cameras. I think you hit the nail on the head. It's their versatility. What they give up up in image quality they make up for in flexibility and as a creative tool I think that's huge. I would also argue that with cameras like the LX7 (and some of the other higher end compacts point and shoots) are really narrowing the gap in performance and image quality vs. larger sensor cameras.

    Love that last one.
     
  5. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    Ray,

    They are all good, but the top one knocks my socks off! I am officially sockless.

    Cheers, Jock
     
  6. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    When you can't beat it, may as well double down and try to use it...

    -Ray
     
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  7. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    I don't think the LX7 is really narrowing the gap that much, at least in terms of sensor, which is only really useable to about 800, maybe 1600 in a real emergency, but I don't often have photographic emergencies! But the rest of the camera is so wonderful, and the f1.4 - 2.3 lens means that ISO 800 will go a looooong way. And the fun factor, which you raised in another post, is just off the charts for me with this camera. The X10/20 and RX100 are pushing the envelope with small cam sensor quality and I expect others to follow, but they're not there yet. But the controls, features, and options of the LX7 just fit me to a "T", so I'm gonna stick with it until and unless Panasonic comes out with an update that incorporates a larger and better sensor. IF they can do it without messing up the fundamental wonderfulness of the current camera.

    Kind of silly that with an X-Pro and m43 options with tons of great glass that I've spent a good chunk of money on, a $300 camera is in many ways my favorite of them all...

    -Ray
     
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  8. demiro

    demiro Serious Compacts For Life

    527
    Dec 15, 2011
    Nice shots Ray. Did you do any head-to-head with the E-PL5? It'd be interesting to see the same shot on each camera to better define just what that gap between them looks like.

    The LX7 is a bit strange to me. I think a lot of us expected a larger sensor compared to the LX5, at least up to match the X10, or maybe even a one-incher. Panasonic actually delivered a smaller sensor than on the LX5, albeit matched up with a faster lens. I don't doubt the 7 is better than the 5, but given where this market segment is heading it seems to be off-trend.

    If the price actually settles at $300 or $350 though it might find a really nice sweet spot, bringing high performance at a reasonable cost.
     
  9. dixeyk

    dixeyk Guest

    I'm with you when it comes to fun factor and I too have both m43 and NEX (and a lot of glass) and more and more my X10 makes it's way into my bag because of the sheer enjoyment I get from it.
     
  10. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    I didn't really do any head to head - I mostly took the LX7 out in the daylight and the EPL5 out in the evening. And once I took them both out for some street shooting. There's definitely more depth to the files of the EPL5 and you can pull all sorts of stuff out of them in PP. Here are a couple of evening shots with the EPL5 that I could have done with the LX7 but might have needed a tripod to keep it at a low enough ISO to almost match the quality:

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    And a couple of street shots that held up to pushing and pulling a bit better:

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    I'm guessing they'll try to come out with something with a sensor the size of the X20 or the RX100, and if they can pull it off without compromising too much of what makes the LX7 special, I'm all in. But I had an RX100 for a while and an X10 for quite a while and I prefer the LX7 to either (a lot compared to the RX100, only slightly compared to the X10) despite the limited sensor. I think the LX7 sensor, despite being slightly smaller than the LX5, is actually somewhat better. I was never comfortable going above 400 with the LX5 but I'll shoot 800 on the LX7. And making the lens 1.4-2.3 with the same zoom range is a hell of an improvement over the LX5. And the controls are even better IMHO. The LX3 was a great camera but the LX5 improved on it in several ways (although there are those who don't think either of the newer models has matched the LX3 for sharpness) and the LX7 has improved on the LX5 in several ways. The sensor is clearly the weak point relative to the coming generation of compacts, but its just not all that weak. And the rest of the camera more than compensates for my money. For $300, its a frighteningly capable little camera. I understand its the class of the compact field for video too, but I'm not enough of a video shooter to know the difference - they all work well enough for me in that regard...

    -Ray
     
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  11. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    I'm losing track of all your cameras Ray! You still have the OMD, Xpro1 and/or X10?
     
  12. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Nope, sold the X10 to Kevin. I have the X-Pro (two lenses), OMD and EPL5 (many lenses), and LX7. And I'm gonna have another used GXR-28 in a couple of days. Which I don't need, but I don't see any real UP-grades coming anytime soon (unless Pany comes out with an LX-10 that adds a better sensor to the LX7 without losing much of what makes it great), so I'm sort of consolidating around what I know I like. I miss having some of that Ricoh mojo to grab some days, the GRD3 sensor was keeping me from picking it up, and I saw a good deal on a used GXR, which I never should have sold in the first place. Some of what I own is about the best out there in its category, other of what I own clearly is NOT the best, but I'm at a place where I know what I like and I've always liked variety.

    And yourself??? I know you have a new wife and a new XE1, but I've lost track otherwise myself...

    -Ray
     
  13. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    New wife = smaller disposable income!

    Still have my M9, OMD and XE1. In the process of selling/trading the XE1. The X10 is in a state of permanent loan to my dad, while the X100 is on temporary loan to my sister. Preordered a X20 and waiting on arrival of the Oly 17/1.8 tomorrow.
     
  14. Djarum

    Djarum SC All-Pro

    Jul 10, 2010
    Huntsville, AL
    Jason
    Really Nice! I like that orange sun down(or sunup?) shot.
     
  15. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Glad to see that you got those in the right order!
     
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  16. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Great images with both cameras, Ray. The sunflare shots with the LX7 are very distinctive and really stand out with the type of b&w processing that you used.

    It's been a while since I had a compact zoom. Technically the G1X might qualify under that banner but it does seem a ways removed from the G9, G10, and G11 that I had experienced previously. I upgraded my wife's camera to an X-Z1 last year which seems like a pretty neat little camera but I do struggle with the handling since it has a rather thin, gripless body. I gather that the LX7 is a better in that regard.
     
  17. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    Hahaha. You boys crack me up. Of course the wife comes first. That's why I get the cameras. So that I can take photos of her. It's all for her! That's why I preordered the X20. It's for her. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. norman shearer

    norman shearer SC Veteran

    Great work with that LX7 Ray, I'm amazed at what you are getting out of such a small sensor. Look forward to seeing what you can do with the EPL5. I nearly went for one myself but what put me off was the best m43 lenses are out of my budget and I think I'd have felt limited with just the 20mm pancake and 14-45mm zoom. I'm gonna try and be happy with what I have this year but there are so many good cameras appearing now it's gonna feel like quitting smoking!
     
  19. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    Really nice, Ray. Thanks for the photos - I miss Baltimore, and the harbor shots bring back a lot of good memories.

    I've always had a soft spot for the LX/D-LUX cameras. Like the Canon G series, they've been improving on a good thing for a long time.
     
  20. thekeddi

    thekeddi SC Top Veteran

    539
    Aug 15, 2011
    South Australia
    Awesome photos! I also really love the sun rays in a couple of them, fantastic stuff! Might just have to have a second look at the LX7 myself :)