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First 'light roomed' shot with the Sony RX100

Discussion in 'Sony RX100 Forum' started by petemasty, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. petemasty

    petemasty SC Regular

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    Took this little gem of a camera out today round the back of where i work in Gloucestershire. Wanted to see just how much detail i could drag out of the camera when processing in LR4. I am very very pleasantly pleased, particularly with the sky, because the amount of detail i managed to retrieve from the sky is quite incredible. The sensor in this camera is quite frankly astounding. I never even realised there was blue sky when i looked at the RAW, let alone cloud detail!
     

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  2. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    Nice shot! Could you show us the OOC jpeg for comparison purposes? I heard the jpeg engine doesn't use anywhere near the dynamic range of which the sensor is capable...
     
  3. petemasty

    petemasty SC Regular

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  4. petemasty

    petemasty SC Regular

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    canal and church 1 smaller 2.

    and another one for luck.
     
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  5. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    wow that jpeg is awful. it's flat and sludgy while managing to blow the sky at the same time
     
  6. christilou

    christilou SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2010
    Sunny Frimley
    Wow, quite a difference!
     
  7. Crsnydertx

    Crsnydertx SC Top Veteran

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    Chuck
    Does raise some concerns about SOOC JPEGs....
     
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  8. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Nice shot. Those raw files are quite good, aren't they? The jpegs can also be quite good, but not as good as the raws...

    -Ray
     
  9. petemasty

    petemasty SC Regular

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    i usually only use the jpegs as visual indexes when i am viewing my folders outside of Lightroom. But i think i shall just shoot raw from now on when using the RX100.

    but, boy-oh-boy, is that lens a cracker!!!? and so is the sensor!!!!
     
  10. krugorg

    krugorg SC All-Pro

    Sep 26, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Kyle Krug
    Wow! Pretty crazy what you can pull out of those raw files.
     
  11. KianO

    KianO SC Top Veteran

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    Jun 27, 2012
    Geneva
    Looking forward to finally be able to shoot raw with this cam, and thank you very much for your pictures and nice PP you've done on them.
     
  12. petemasty

    petemasty SC Regular

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    May 24, 2011
    wiltshire, UK
    Cheers KianO.

    The new LR4 grad filter really does pull out some astounding detail. I remember when i took the shots yesterday, the sky was completely blown (according to the camera), but there must have been detail there to rescue. I even took some shots of the sky at the end of my sojourn just incase i needed to use it as a background.

    I also used Viveza 2 to selectively expose certain areas.

    There's a blue sky here today so i may go to the same spot and see how rich a blue sky can be with this little gem.
     
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  13. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    Have you tried processing the Jpg file similar to what you did with the RAW file?
     
  14. petemasty

    petemasty SC Regular

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    May 24, 2011
    wiltshire, UK
    No. i have tried this once before mainly out of curiosity, but with a different camera, and the results were not pretty. If one can make small and subtle changes, then no probs, but otherwise I wouldnt waste my time.
     
  15. Prototype

    Prototype SC Veteran

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    Jul 9, 2010
    Illinois
    Brian
    Amazing how much you can push the RAW file. The OOC JPEG isn't so bad, either.
     
  16. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    The RX100 jpegs actually have a LOT of processing latitude, way more than a lot of jpegs do. The Fuji X-100 and X-Pro jpegs also have loads of latitude. But with the RX100, there are still limits to what you can do with WB, and at higher ISO there are some pretty ugly NR artifacts that even show up and reasonable viewing sizes. With the raw files, you get more latitude (even though you might not need it often) and you get reasonably "pure" noise. There's plenty of noise at 3200 and 6400 but there's also a LOT of detail and it can clean up reasonably well in Lightroom. There's a lot less space between raw and jpegs with these files than with a lot of cameras, but there's still a difference.

    Just for example, here's a shot my wife took of me, directly into the sun - I realized the mistake right away and she took another from a better angle, but I decided to play with this anyway.

    In the OOC jpeg, my face is virtually black as you might expect:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/7999595893/" title="LBI 8-12-283 by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"1024" height="683" alt="LBI 8-12-283"></a>

    Using as crude a tool as snapseed on my ipad, this is what I got when I processed the jpeg and raised my face out of the darkness. Remarkably clean, but its processed for the clouds, so my face has a bit more texture than it otherwise might. I've since played with it in Lightroom on my mac and its remarkably clean with ZERO NR applied beyond the lowest NR setting in-camera. I find this pretty amazing. I remember fighting with Olympus raw files from everything prior to the OMD and not being able to pull shadows without horrendous noise. This is with a jpeg and there's essentially NONE. This is a recent development in my experience:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/7787690876/" title="LBI 8/12 by ramboorider1, on Flickr"> 7787690876_a54d45776a_b. "1024" height="768" alt="LBI 8/12"></a>

    -Ray
     
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