For Chris Weeks - Some recent M9P shots

Discussion in 'Leica M Forum' started by ajramirez, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. ajramirez

    ajramirez SC All-Pro

    Jul 9, 2010
    Caguas, Puerto Rico
    Antonio
    After reading Chris Weeks' "review" of the Fuji X-Pro 1 and bashing of the M9 and Leica users (https://www.photographerslounge.org/f98/switching-m9-xpro1-interesting-provocative-review-13601/) I figured I would post some of my recent M9P shots as a counterpoint of sorts.

    At Piñones, Loíza, Puerto Rico:

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    El puente by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    Piñones II by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    Piñones I by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    Leña serás by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    La casa verde by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    Autorretrato en la casa verde by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    Oráculo del Biagué by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    JDP by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

    At Old San Juan:

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    Contemplación by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    El entierro by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    ¡Buen provecho! II by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    Conguero by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    La tortuga by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

    And, a couple of my better half:

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    Zulma by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

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    Zulma by ramirezaponte, on Flickr

    Cheers,

    Antonio
     
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  2. bilzmale

    bilzmale Super Moderator Emeritus

    Jul 17, 2010
    Perth, Western Australia
    Bill Shinnick
    Impressive stuff Antonio.
     
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  3. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    Wonderful, Antonio. I don't know what Chris Weeks wrote, but I enjoyed your counterpoint very much.
     
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  4. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    considering a picture is worth a thousand words, your 15,000 word reply is impressive not only in length, but also in restraint. I would have used a few choice words mixed in, but you're a much classier guy.

    It's long been understood that if the only way to give praise is to tear down the opponent, it's either something lacking from that needing the praise or the lack of intellect on the part of he who is heaping the praise. I've seen some magnificent shots from the X-Pro1, so that leaves us with the sad little Mr. Weeks.

    Well said, Antonio.
     
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  5. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Beautiful work as always Antonio. I don't think Weeks would claim there's anything wrong with an M-9 or any other Leica body and lenses. He obviously used one for a very long time and I doubt he'd claim it was less of a photographic tool. His point, crassly stated as it may have been, is that the M bodies have their own set of limitations that make them a questionable value at their very high prices. I agree, but there are lots of nice things of questionable value that I personally LOVE, so I'd be the last person to criticize anyone for buying a Leica. Maybe he just ran into a number of Leica owners who WERE posers and using them as fashion statements? Which is also fine if that's what floats your boat, but I can see how criticism of "lesser" cameras from that particular sub-strata of Leica owners would get tiresome, if that's what he was (over) reacting to.

    None of which matters. You use a Lecia the way it was meant to be used - as a great high-end photographic tool with its own subtle wonderful qualities. Keep making beautiful photographs and don't worry about jerks who judge any photographer by whatEVER camera they may be carrying. In a way his rant is almost identical to those of many on DPR and elsewhere who's personal worth seems to be dictated by knowing that THEIR choice in gear is the only RIGHT choice in gear and uses that as a jumping off point to trash those who would have the poor judgement to use anything else...

    It comes down to the work and you do great stuff. He's pretty good too. Great that you each found tools that make you happy in use! He's a dick about it - you're not...

    -Ray
     
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  6. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    That's about the best response that anyone could make.
     
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  7. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    Great pictures. I don't recall him complaining about image quality though - quite the opposite, he appears to uniformly love the results of using Leicas. I imagine he might ask what your price-per-photo was, though.
     
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  8. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    amazing colours!
     
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  9. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    Also these photos play very well into his "users who want to take pictures in Cuba" jab. Just sayin'. :)
     
  10. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    When I read that part of the review, I immediately thought about Antonio (and cringed a bit). Obviously, when you live in Puerto Rico, you take photos of Puerto Rico. I think Ray said it best when he said this "He's a dick about it - you're not..." referring to Mr. Weeks and also Antonio's response.

    It's really horses for courses. No one "wins" by choosing "the best" camera. And there is no universal "best" camera....that's why forums like this exist. Everyone values different aspects of the different tools.

    I never see anyone bashing Ferrari's because they are difficult to keep running. I just never really understand all the hatred towards Leica. They make very nice cameras. They cost a lot of money. They are not for everyone. Lather, rinse, repeat.
     
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  11. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    Ditto, pretty much.
     
  12. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    Great set of photos AJ! How close were you to the subject on the contemplation photo?
     
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  13. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
    Barrie
    Antonio,

    I'm intrigued by the story behind this particular photograph, any background details would be appreciated.

    Barrie
     
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  14. Hyubie

    Hyubie SC Veteran

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    Jun 8, 2011
    Massachusetts
    Beautiful!!

    That image titled JDP for some reason caught me (I don't know what other word to use other than "caught"), and got me staring at it for a few minutes. IMO you don't have to defend your camera choice. We all see what you (and your gear) are capable of delivering.

    And Leica wouldn't be where it is without actually turning superb products. Just look at all the Apple haters out there.
     
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  15. Hyubie

    Hyubie SC Veteran

    360
    Jun 8, 2011
    Massachusetts
    I assume it is a ceremonial procession of sorts, maybe a death ritual. In the Philippines (where we absorbed a lot of Spanish words into our language, thanks to 300 years under Spain :smile:), Santo Entierro is done on Good Friday, a funeral procession with an image of the dead Christ. (I know - I think I only hepled a little.)
     
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  16. ajramirez

    ajramirez SC All-Pro

    Jul 9, 2010
    Caguas, Puerto Rico
    Antonio
    Fairly close, as it was shot with a 50mm 1.5 C-Sonnar, as were the rest of the Old San Juan photos posted. This was part of a street performance, so even though the subject of the photo was fully aware that I was photographing him, he could not move or react.

    Antonio
     
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  17. ajramirez

    ajramirez SC All-Pro

    Jul 9, 2010
    Caguas, Puerto Rico
    Antonio
    This was a street performance art piece held at Plaza de Armas in Old San Juan, Puerto Rico. There were five or six actors, each of which was standing in front of a cardboard casket placed on a small table in the square. The interior of each casket was lined with photographs depicting several scenes in Puerto Rico showing examples of the detrimental effects of Puerto Rico's poor urban planning. Each of the actors was standing in front of his casket, intently looking at the same. That is what is portrayed in "Contemplación" from the same series. At one point, they all closed their caskets and marched out of the square. That's when this shot ("El entierro") was taken.

    Cheers,

    Antonio
     
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  18. ajramirez

    ajramirez SC All-Pro

    Jul 9, 2010
    Caguas, Puerto Rico
    Antonio
    To be frank, I didn't quite get what Mr. Weeks meant by that comment, as I would much rather not interpret it as a racial or ethnic slur. I must confess, though, I would love to do some photographing in Cuba, as I understand it is a very photogenic country.

    As to whether my photos play into his comment, all I can say is that these were shot quite literally in my back yard. I really cannot help that.

    Cheers,

    Antonio
     
  19. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    Beautiful work as always, Antonio. Chris Weeks is just a fool, a self important prat. Ray said it best.

    In the meantime, I just adore those landscapes. Wow.
     
  20. adanac

    adanac SC Veteran

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    Sep 30, 2011
    Vancouver, BC
    I'd love to visit Cuba myself too with camera in hand. I've no idea what Weeks meant. Maybe he doesn't either.

    Cuba is a popular winter destination for Canadians on the other side of our country but is a little far from here on the rainy west coast.