Fuji X-M1 now for real!

Discussion in 'Fuji X Forum' started by Ghosthunter, Jun 25, 2013.

  1. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    Yep....looks good....REALLY good!!

    I'm supposed to be saving up for a Canon 24-105 f4L lens for my 6D but this Fuji has kicked me in the teeth....oh poop!

    Do I smell GAS?!!??!!?!?

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  2. retow

    retow SC All-Pro

    Jul 24, 2010
    The pancake lens is interesting as it makes the XE-1 a more versatile similar size X100s contender.
     
  3. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    If it were the 23mm in the size of the 27mm then that would be a bit of a dream camera for me!!
     
  4. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    It looks really nice, especially with the new pancake. I love working with both a 35mm or 40mm field of view and the Fuji 27mm gives you the latter. But, just playing devil's advocate here for a moment: How do we think it stacks up against, say, the Sony NEX 6, which is roughly the same price, also has an APS-C-sized sensor and even has an EVF?
     
  5. theoldsmithy

    theoldsmithy SC Top Veteran

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    Jan 7, 2013
    Herefordshire, England
    Martin Connolly
    That would be my question too. The XM-1 is actually still a quite bit bigger than the NEX-6. This shows the 18-55 but the XC 16-50 is not massively smaller:
    Compact Camera Meter
     
  6. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    FACE DETECTION!! But now, no built-in VF. Bummer.

    On the other hand, MUCH more compelling package than Leica's Mini-M.
     
  7. Lawrence A.

    Lawrence A. SC All-Pro

    Nov 8, 2012
    New Mexico
    Larry
    No EVF or possibility to attach one, which kills it for me. An eye level finder is one of the few musts for my cameras. Otherwise, looks good.
     
  8. CM_SK

    CM_SK SC Regular

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    Apr 23, 2013
    Saskatoon, SK, Canada
    I see it as maybe a second body for XE-1 or Pro-1 owners - just attach a lens that you don't use as much, or that doesn't suffer from using the LCD to compose (eg. a wide angle?) and have instant access to two bodies/lenses in still-light cameras. I am finding I use my X2 as an almost-wide angle lens on many shoots with my Pentax system - the X2 is lighter than many lenses and is always accessible. Kudos to Fuji for continuing to build their X system.
     
  9. junyo

    junyo SC Rookie

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    Aug 8, 2011
    NEPA
    Exactly my plan. Put the 18 or the 27mm on it and it's effectively a large P&S. And I often find myself shooting with the LCD with my XPro when I've got a wide lens mounted, so this would be better.
     
  10. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    A very, very solid new release from Fuji. Good to see that they looking further afield than just making cameras with the more traditional features of their existing models.
     
  11. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    I'm surprised there's not more talk on here about this camera...but perhaps it's because Rico is writing about it over on FujiXspot: X-M1 and new lenses SOOC JPEG samples I like the idea of the smallness, the less expensiveness while still having great lenses and, of course, the inherent "x-iness".:wink:
     
  12. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    After finally shooting with my scratch and dent XE1 for a bit with the 14mm, I'm intrigued with the flip screen, but I don't think I'd want to give up the EVF for it. And with the lenses I'll likely be using with the Fuji from here out, there's no point in a smaller camera because the 14mm is not small and the 10-24 will probably be larger, and any zoom I might ever get won't be small either. So I'll probably wait and see if the updated X-E2 (or whatever they end up calling it) will have a flip screen too. I love shooting wide angles from down low and a flip screen would be useful, but not enough to give up the EVF... I sort of miss the X-Pro and shooting with the OVF, but I just don't see myself getting back into those mid focal length lenses with the Fuji that the OVF really works with. Its barely useable with the 14, won't be with the 10-24, and I don't think I'd like it with a zoom, if I ever get a zoom for this system.

    -Ray
     
  13. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    If there was ever a camera to replace my Sigma DP's it would be the X-M1.....but not yet! :biggrin:
     
  14. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    It's always good for me to read the why's and wherefore's of what goes into other people's decisions, as it helps me think about things more clearly.

    I really have no business even thinking about another camera...but you all know how it is.:wink:

    I also keep looking at that new RX100 II...and wondering.
     
  15. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    Nahhh! Far too modern! Keep it old skool baby! :biggrin:
     
  16. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    True it matches my retro style, Andy.:tongue:
     
  17. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    "The inherent x-iness" - I think we should establish this as a formal metric when considering all Fuji cameras in the future. Perhaps even all cameras. I can see it now, right next to the numerical final score and the gold or silver award at the conclusion of DPReview's tests. "The NEX 8 is a fine camera - and we enjoyed shooting with it. But, despite its rating of 78, it only garners a silver, rather than gold, award on account of its x-iness score of only 2." :tongue:
     
  18. flysurfer

    flysurfer SC Top Veteran

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    Aug 31, 2011
    I's funny, because many people really seem to think about the X series as a retro series. Obviously, it is not, see X-S1 and XF1, which aren't really retro. Of course, people tend to ignore what doesn't fit into their view of things, so many equal the "X factor" with how much a camera looks and behaves like an X100.

    It is clear that even though the X100 was successful as a niche product, it was, is and always will be a niche product. Apple sells more iPhones in a day than Fuji has sold X100 and X100S since their introduction. So this X factor is also some kind of niche factor, meaning X cameras may be popular, but only to a specific set of customers with specific tastes and needs.

    So once Fuji wants to expand towards the mainstream, the X factor has to be reduced in favor of more mainstream features and design desicions. Of course, this is no guarantee that it will work, because once Fuji goes mainstream, it automatically competes with all the other mainstream offerings that may be better or at least be perceived to be better by the mainstream customer, who is often influenced by soft factors like advertising, brand image, general popularity (eveybody has a Canikon, so why don' I?) and general availability and display frequency at physical dealerships (mainstream people buy what they see at Costco). In short: Mainstream customers tend to buy what other mainstream customers have already bought. If everybody has it, it can't be bad, right? If nobody else seems to have it, it looks like a risky buy. There must be a reason why nobody is buying it, right? Mainstream customers do not like taking risks, so lets wait and see how well Fuji will be doing with the X-M1.
     
  19. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    I think as long as Fuji continues its truly niche X cameras, it can please its core customers while experimenting with more-mainstream products. As in products that are inspired by the "real" X's yet don't require mainstream customers to alter their way of thinking and taking photos. As long as Fuji doesn't bring out too many of these at once, the risk may be acceptable and they can always fine-tune their strategy as needed.
     
  20. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
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