Fuji X-Pro 1 hands on and samples

Discussion in 'Fuji X Forum' started by Boid, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. Boid

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  3. Armanius

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    Thanks for the link. For those interested, there's a video on the Photo Rumors page that shows the XP1's auto focus speed. Good indicator. The AF seems a little bit faster than the X100. It had some issues focusing on red backgrounds, so it seemed to me.
     
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  4. Duane Pandorf

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    Not excited about the hunt and miss AF seen so far. Not for the money I think they're going to ask. Plus I guess the MF is steer by wire too. I'm thinking I may have to be happy with my GXR kit and just close my eyes and ears to all the other noise out there. There has be some kind of help for GAS other than turning off my internet connection.
     
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  5. retow

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    AF does not seem to be ready for prime time yet. For me, a camera has to either excel as a AF or MF tool, anything else is a no go.
     
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  6. Pelao

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    With the Nex 7 I liked the idea of focus peaking very much - but mostly because I would need to supplement Sony's lenses. With the Fuji I am likely to be happy with the AF lenses.
     
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  7. Armanius

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    At least they finally placed the auto-ISO option along with the ISO controls. The separation of the auto-ISO from the ISO control in the X100 must have been the single dumbest thing I've ever seen.
     
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  8. krugorg

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    I am with ya, Duane. A bigger deal than the AF performance, for me, is the overall size of the camera. The picture on DPR has the large (for m4/3 anyway) PL25 on the Panasonic GX1 and it still looks small compared to the Fuji. If you threw the 20/1.7 on there it would look even smaller, and that is roughly the size of my GXR with 28mm. I know everyone has a different idea what compact is, but the new Fuji seems to push in to compact DSLR territory.

    I am feeling comfortable with my GXR and m4/3 until I see what the new Pentax and Canon CSCs look like, and also how well any new 16mpx GXR modules perform (hoping for a 35mm equiv.)
     
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  9. Landshark

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    While the 28mm GXR does ok on AF my 50 hunts like an E-P1, Lens is great when it connects but has real issues in low light.
     
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  10. Luckypenguin

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    The size doesn't concern me greatly, since there's something to be said for a camera with a bit of heft and extra real estate for controls, even though I suspect the retro design has squandered some of the potential ergonomic benefits of it's size. I do think that it is drawing a long bow to describe this as a compact camera. Just when you thought CSC was the proper termilogy for a mirrorless camera, Fuji breathes life back into EVIL!
     
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  11. Pelao

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    Ya, the return of Evil!
    The overall weight and bulk is what I keep an eye on, and this appears to still offer a good compactness / performance ratio.
     
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  12. Armanius

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    Here's a link to a fairly detailed Google translated review with comparison photos vs X100 and Nikon D3. Reviewer discusses the lenses as well. Image quality of the XP1 looking REALLY good in my opinion.

    Google Translate

    The XP1 looks like a Voigtlander Bessa, the more I look at it.
     
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  13. kyteflyer

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    Thanks for that, Armando. I see that Fuji has chosen to do away with the diopter adjustment. That's the end of it for me, right there. Everything else looks great, but no diopter adjustment, no sale :(
     
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  14. Pelao

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    I have read a lot of similar reactions. I am not sure how I feel about it, but I've certainly become used to a built-in adjuster.
     
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  15. Landshark

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    If there are screw in diopters available , no problem , if not, not good
     
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  16. Armanius

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    The Fuji guys made a reference to 3rd party glass. No reference to Fuji ones. Maybe the XP1 takes the ones made for Leica M's. Even though I never adjust the diopter, I can't begin to fathom why Fuji dropped it. Surely it doesn't cost that much! Or does it?
     
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  17. Luckypenguin

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    What does a screw-in diopter look like, and what does it screw into?
     
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  18. flysurfer

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    Cosina 19 mm or any compatible diopter will do. I just bought mine from Carl Zeiss.
     
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  19. Armanius

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    I think it's like in the M9. The round eye piece on the M9 has a piece of glass. The eye piece can be unscrewed, and replaced with another more suitable to a different user who may wear glasses. Or a magnifier can be installed, which is helpful in a rangefinder when trying to focus longer lenses.
     
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  20. Ray Sachs

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    you should be able to figure it out...
    And, actually, there IS some sort of a magnifier internal to the XP1's OVF that's supposed to kick in automatically to enlarge the framelines when you switch from the 18mm equivalent to 53mm equivalent lens (and stays in place but does not magnify further when you go to the 90mm lens). So maybe doing BOTH the magnifier AND a diopter adjustment within the innards of the same OVF was technically a bridge too far and that's why they decided to leave the diopter adjustment up to the end user at the back end of the whole system? Or maybe they just cheaped-out on this one item, but somehow I doubt that on a camera body that they're planning to ask something on the order of $1700 for. Given that even the X10's dead OVF has one on a $600 camera.

    To me, this would be a minor PIA upon buying the camera, but once I found and installed the right diopter lens to work with my glasses, I doubt I'd ever think about it again. If I had eyes that needed to change adjustment substantially over the course of a day, I'm sure I'd feel differently.

    -Ray
     
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