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Fuji X10 firmware update!

Discussion in 'Fuji Forum' started by nippa, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. nippa

    nippa SC Top Veteran

    561
    Aug 7, 2010
    Cheshire UK
    Dennis
    The new firmware is out but seems not to have addressed the issue of "Orbs"

    Fuji says that the ...
    Blooming (White disk) phenomena, which can be observed in EXR AUTO mode, is reduced.

    so nothing then about the Orbs that can be observed in every other mode.

    However they have given us a programmable RAW button to shut us up.
    What a company!
     
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  2. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Thanks for the heads up - I hadn't seen the new firmware yet. Since I didn't have a problem with the orbs (I found 'em in two shots so far, one where they mattered, one where they didn't), I'm fine with that part, so I'll just take the programmable raw button and say thank you. I hope they just give us that on the X-100 and fix the auto-ISO and that camera will leave nothing left for me to desire...

    -Ray
     
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  3. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    Thank's for the heads up, nippa. Have you upgraded yet?

    From Fuji Global: Firmware for X10 | Fujifilm Global version 1.0.3

    Right, Ray - sorry I'd missed your comments in my excitement about the RAW button.:wink:

    P.S. Decided to split this off into its own thread for future eyes re the firmware update.
     
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  4. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
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  5. nippa

    nippa SC Top Veteran

    561
    Aug 7, 2010
    Cheshire UK
    Dennis
    Thanks BB
    As I mentioned in my PM I've been playing around with bright light sources to create orbs in P mode at ISO 100 and I'm happy with what I've seen.
    Perhaps Fuji did something beyond EXR Auto but were too shy to tell us.

    General feeling on DPReview seems pessimistic and I expected to feel that way too but I can't be on the basis of what I've seen so far :)
     
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  6. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    I just saw a couple of examples on DPReview from a guy who took back to back longish exposure night shots off of his balcony, with tripod, into direct light sources. Both showed orbs, but they were noticeably less bad with the new firmware. I still wouldn't buy it if I did a lot of that kind of shooting. I'd still buy it if I don't. I'd expect that for every 10 shots I get with orbs (which at my present rate, could take a year or two), maybe a couple fewer will be bad enough to notice or to matter. I guess we'll see. I just did the upgrade and its nice to reclaim that raw button for something useful. But now I have to remember all of my settings...

    -Ray
     
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  7. jhawker

    jhawker SC Veteran

    219
    Aug 30, 2011
    Springfield, Illinois
    V1.03
    I may be jumping in too soon here, but I think that focus beep can be silenced while the hot shoe will trigger a flash.
    Looks like macro will work with external flash now too. Just confirmed that.
    Those two changes are very useful. I didn't like that beep! I do like to light closeups!
    I have done a couple portraits and the beeping noise was a distraction.
    The upgrade does require a reset of menu preferences.
    As for the orbs, that remains to be seen. I just didn't find myself in situations where that was common.
    Now the raw button can do something I want it to do!
    Overall a good step.
    Cheers.
    JH
     
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  8. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    I remember seeing a website where they compared the X-10 orbs to other cameras' results. The M-9 rendition of specular reflections looks very similar to the X-10. I have to admit that is till don't really notice them. Already thinking about what I will do with the raw button. What are the rest of you planning to do?
     
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  9. jhawker

    jhawker SC Veteran

    219
    Aug 30, 2011
    Springfield, Illinois
    drd,
    I always read that the high ISO and noise is improved/reduced after an upgrade on the Leicas.
    Thought about a tongue and cheek mention here, but then thought better.
    Like the Raw button for film simulation.
    JH
     
  10. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    I'm a bit confused (not that uncommon, BTW). I was referring to rendition of specular reflections (the white orb problem) on the X-10 and M9, not noise/high iso issues.

    Film simulation is a good idea.
     
  11. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    If only ....
     
  12. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    That's awesome!! I hate focus beep too, but I do like the "fake" shutter click. So we can have one without the other now, right? :) Can't wait to try it out.
     
  13. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

    Jul 15, 2010
    SoCal
    Bob
    I never use Auto ISO so have really never cared what one has to do to set it
     
  14. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Yeah, I went back and forth on the fn button between ISO (when I wasn't using auto) and film simulation. Now I have ISO on the fn and film simulation on the raw. On the X100 I almost never take ISO off of auto (because its such a hassle to switch) so I go between the ND filter and film simulation on the fn button. If they'd free up the raw button on that, I'd be happy. If they'd fix the damn auto-ISO thing, I'd be ecstatic!

    -Ray
     
  15. flysurfer

    flysurfer SC Top Veteran

    791
    Aug 31, 2011
    I put AF mode on Fn1 and Face Detection on Fn2 (aka RAW), just like I did with the X-S1.

    Btw, even when reassigned, the RAW button will still work as a RAW button in Playback mode, so no worries here.
     
  16. nippa

    nippa SC Top Veteran

    561
    Aug 7, 2010
    Cheshire UK
    Dennis
    Thanks I hadn't realised that ; now that makes Fn2 really useful.

    POSTSCRIPT Feb 11th
    Well the sun has finally come out at home and sad to say it's clear that Fuji have made no progress with the orb problem.
    Up to now I've not been that bothered but we're off on a cruise round Hawaii with a stopover in LA during March so I anticipate issues when we're there.
    I do love this X10 but I can't see me buying Fuji again as this is my second bad experience.....the first Fuji was a Z10 for my wife which was positively the worst digicam of all time.
     
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  17. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    After the update to 1.03, when in EXR (via control dial), there is no "custom" view of the LCD for me.

    I'm not sure if there was "custom" view in EXR before the update. Can someone who hasn't updated to 1.03 check on that? Or does anyone remember if there was (or not) a "custom" view while on EXR mode?
     
  18. nippa

    nippa SC Top Veteran

    561
    Aug 7, 2010
    Cheshire UK
    Dennis
    Like you I can't remember what went before as I only used EXR Mode for backup shots and never saw an advantage.
    I notice Custom Mode is still available in Auto though ; one quirky camera.
     
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  19. cherrywood

    cherrywood SC Regular

    71
    Aug 15, 2011
    ohio
    Fuji X10 firmware version 1.03 installed to Mac computer today, Fuji MB discrepancy;

    Talked with Fujifilm today About this version ,1.03, install on my iMac. When I downloaded it to computer the required MB of the down load should be 24.6 MB, as/per Fuji Global info. And the printed info said if it did not have this MB rating to download again so tried it twice and the download files both times came up 25.9 MB.

    So talked to Fuji and they said that the last month or so the Mac's were padding the download to 25.9 Mb, and Fuji in Japan was working on the situation. Fuji NJ USA told me to proceed with the file of 25.9 Mb downloaded SD card and said that the download would work fine even with the file reading 25.9 and not the required 24.6Mb as stated on their website. So with some trepidation,

    Downloaded the SD card info into the camera and everything worked fine.


    So just wanted to let Mac users know that the 25.9 Mb download is ok to install in the camera.

    Thanks Dennis.