Glad I don't shoot film

Discussion in 'Film Camera Forum' started by Luke, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
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  2. pdh

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  3. TraamisVOS

    TraamisVOS SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 29, 2010
    Melboune, Australia
    Man that Kodak MF is one hot looking camera.
     
  4. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I saw that. If I was in the neighborhood and his price was more wholesale than retail, I'd buy it. I love buying intact collections of anything and enjoying them for awhile and then reselling, but there's nowhere near enough profit there for all the work involved.

    I bought an eccentric old man's toaster collection many years ago. It was an amazing collection. Around 120 toasters from the very beginnings of people making toast through the amazing design years of the 50s and 60s. The depth and "bread"th of the collection was staggering. The old man knew what he had.....he was paying collector prices for them for years, but he also understood all the work that would go into selling them. I got the collection for $750. I figured that if I sold them one at a time I could get around $2,500 - $3,000 for them, but it would take me proabably 6 months of part-time work taking photographs of all of them and typing desciptions and packaging them. It wouldn't be easy money, but it would be fun and I could keep it "under the table".

    I decided to promote the coming availablity of this vast treasure trove of toasters, I'd make a big splashy ad on eBay for the whole lot with a Buy It Now price that was high enough to generate interest, but low enough to look like a steal....... just in case there was some nutjob out there who wanted to save me a bunch of time and money listing them all separately. After 2 days of getting frantic emails with offers to buy the 3 or 4 really desirable ones separately (like I didn't know what they were worth), I found my nutjob. I packed up 20 huge boxes.....my hands were black from all the newsprint used as packing material...my back ached. The UPS man showed up and I had made a quick strike....after fees and shipping, I made $600 for a week's work.

    So that's juts a long way to say, if that camera collection were in the $5,000 to $10,000 range, I'd be sorting them as we speak. And yes, I am a little bit crazy. and maybe I'd keep 3 or 4 for myself. My wife kept her favorite toaster. I couldn't keep my favorite. It was worth a couple hundred.
     
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  5. spinyman

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    David
    That's quite a story Luke.I used to buy all sorts of stuff that was a steal so I could resell for a profit.Still have most of it.I have a bunch of lenses I've been meaning to sell,all taking up room.Can't get motivated.You did well with the toasters, any pics?
     
  6. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    yes, but were they 35mm or MF toasters?
    did you find any already toasted bread in any of them?
     
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  7. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I'll look around. If I do have some pics, they are likely on an old PC that won't boot up anymore, but I have a file folder from the original owner with some documents and I think a few snapshots. It's amazing all the different ways people came up with to burn bread.
     
  8. Isoterica

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    Dec 6, 2011
    I have a Medalist I.. tank of a camera. Maybe it will cool you off to know you have to respool 120 to 620 reels.. or have the camera converted to take 120? Eh, film has curtailed you ;)

    EDIT: Sell the toasters, useless things, buy old film cameras, you can use them!



    Tell me you aren't watching that one! I've been thinking this is pretty cool Stereo Camera Verascope F40 Set | eBay but of course could not buy it.
     
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  9. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I love the article itself.... the design and all that. Of course, it's cool that it takes photos, but I don't shoot film. Let's see some photos of yours (or taken BY yours).
     
  10. Isoterica

    Isoterica SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 6, 2011
    Just got some respool from B&H.. so soon when I have something to shoot. It's not been used yet like a lot of my little toasters [treasures -wink-] but I can take a photo of it..

     
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  11. ajramirez

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    Antonio
    Sweet!!!
     
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  12. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
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    the photographers back then were a lot smarter than I'll ever be if they could visualize the effects of the various filters BEFORE the shot. Amazing set-up you have there.
     
  13. Hikari

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  14. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    that is some bad-a$$ rig!
     
  15. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    Back then?
    You make it sound like photographers are on some sort of de-evolutionary path, Lukester ...
     
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  16. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Well, as a large group, perhaps "photographers" are de-evolving. That's not to say that there aren't still a bunch of great photographers out there that could shoot with that camera and use those filters intelligently knowing how the final b/w will look.

    But the democratization of photography (and I suppose this started happening a LONG time ago with cheapo cameras, but certainly the rise of the internet and photography forums has poured buckets of fuel to the fire) has in many ways created a vast pool of bumbling idiots with just enough knowledge about photography to be dangerous (I am very likely amongst this group, shamefully enough).

    So individual photographers..... the real ones.... are not getting dumber. But fauxtographers now definitely outnumber real photographers. I'll bet if you took that set-up into a camera store in the 50s, more than half of the people there could confidently use the filters. What percentage of people who consider themselves photographers (I still don't count myself in this group yet) will know that using a green filter will lighten foliage and darken the skies? (ah....I'll just fix it in post)

    I just think that as a pool, photographers are dumber now than they were back then. But I also think that this is just an example of a general dumbing down of the population in general.
     
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  17. TraamisVOS

    TraamisVOS SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 29, 2010
    Melboune, Australia
    Amen to this.
     
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  18. Hikari

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    "You press the button, we will do the rest." That is the tag line from Kodak Eastman and their Brownie line of cameras introduced in 1900. If you look at a lot of camera advertising early in photographic history, you will see lots of selling points claiming how easy it is to use. Some early ads claimed that "even school boys" could use it. Women were often shown modeling the camera as "proof" it was easy. And later, early Leica ads focused on how flexible and economical the camera was and great for holiday snaps--not trying to sell it like it is today as some professional image magic machine.

    You will find throughout history, the general populace was "dumb." We tend to look back in time with rose-colored specs.
     
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  19. Isoterica

    Isoterica SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 6, 2011
    Well said.
     
  20. Lawrence A.

    Lawrence A. SC All-Pro

    Nov 8, 2012
    New Mexico
    Larry
    I come on! You know in your heart of hearts that what you really want is a Leica M3, loaded with Tri-X, and a darkroom to develop and print the stuff. Just admit it, Luke; you'll feel so liberated!

    P.S. You ended up on ebay through a deep, subconscious desire to justify your urge to shoot film.
     
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