Idle curiosity -- Is there enough interest here in superzooms to have their own gear forum?

Discussion in 'The Watering Hole' started by Jock Elliott, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    Maybe the "Superzoom Salon"?

    Cheers, Jock
     
  2. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    I've used superzooms from the beginning until May 2015, and although I'm on a prime lens mission now, will probably return to a superzoom in the near future. It's always interesting regardless.
     
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  3. davidzvi

    davidzvi SC Regular

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    Apr 18, 2014
    David
    Would you break tham down by over and under 1" sensors or by brands? While not a bad idea, I'm just trying to imagine how it would work.
     
  4. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    That probably could work. I just thought it would be neat to have one place for find information about fixed-lens-zoom-cameras with at least 400mm (e) of reach. Let me do some more thinking about this.

    Cheers, Jock
     
  5. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 SC Top Veteran

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    Feb 6, 2015
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    Andrew
    I'd recommend just doing an over under sensor size, if that. I am a member of another forum that tried doing a brand centric focus on this type of thing and there were a lot of forums that remained idle.

    Sometimes less is more.
     
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  6. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    There are already forums for discussing superzoom cameras.

    For the original superzoom cameras (and those that continue to use smaller sensors)...... https://www.photographerslounge.org/categories/54/

    And for superzoom cameras with 1" (or larger.....though I don't think there are any larger (yet)) .... https://www.photographerslounge.org/categories/77/

    and of course any threads that compare stuff across sensor size can go in the Open Gear talk..... https://www.photographerslounge.org/forums/16/



    I think the break down of fixed vs. Interchangeable lens couple with sensor size already makes an awful lot of forums. And it keeps the conversations relevant. Discussions about an FZ100 relate to a TZ3 as well. I think brand specificity for organization works well and for when people want to discuss and compare across brand lines, there's a place for that as well.
     
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  7. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    I went to the first one and there was no 'zoom' or 'superzoom' indicated. It looks like you would have to post into a lot of unrelated stuff if you wanted to focus on superzooms.
     
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  8. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    I'm in two (or perhaps three or four) minds about it. I think it would be good to have an all-superzoom thread, I don't think there's many people using them apart from us, so having a whole forum seems a bit silly. Maybe it could go in "Other" or something. Or, perhaps, in the images section which allows a bit more leeway.
     
  9. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
  10. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
  11. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    I'm not a superzoom sorta guy so I don't have a particular axe to grind here other than to say that I have seen other forums fragment for perfectly sensible reasons and subsequently suffer for it. The more you build sub-forums the more people with specific interests stay in those areas and the less they contribute to and benefit from interacting with the wider community. Now I'm not sayin' that this would automatically happen here, but too much specialisation ain't necessarily a good thing in the long run.
     
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  12. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Is there any way to create sticky threads?
     
  13. john m flores

    john m flores SC All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2012
    I'd put everything over 300mm equivalent in one forum because I'd like to see all the options to photograph a bird from 50 yards away in one place regardless of sensor size or fixed/interchangeable.
     
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  14. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Bill's concern is also shared by me.

    But John's point is also solid. Although all of it is doable with the current set-up. I assume that no one missed the thread on superzoom size comparisons in the Watering Hole ..... https://www.photographerslounge.org/threads/35021/#post-220168

    And maybe it's best served by being in the Open Gear Talk forum, but you get the idea. For the most part, if someone is interested in finding something, they'll find it.

    I'll send Amin a pm about this to see what he thinks.
     
  15. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    I could go for that. Reach (followed closely by quality), after all, is the point.

    Cheers, Jock
     
  16. john m flores

    john m flores SC All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2012
    BTW, what's this about a lion roaming the streets of Milwaukee? And what kind of superzoom would be best to photograph said lion?
     
  17. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    Thanks, Luke.

    Cheers, Jock
     
  18. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    Short answer: the superzoom with the longest reach you can find.

    Cheers, Jock
     
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  19. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I was thinking about heading out with my Pentax and a 55-300 yesterday and patrolling through the hood to keep an eye out for the big cat (likely a cougar....not an African Lion like a lot of the bad Photoshops popping up all over social media). But my day was spent dealing with stupid real life stuff instead of hunting lions with my Pentax.

    I assume you saw that little cell phone video clip. I find it strange and a little unsettling that people are making a joke of it. It's not like someone saw bigfoot. That thing would DESTROY a pet dog or cat in the yard. A 5 year old child could easily become a casualty.

    Cougars have lived in Wisconsin for hundreds of years. More often than not, the DNR thinks that they are most often just passing through Wisconsin (hey everybody loves to vacation here), but it is possible there are a few full-time residents in the north woods.

    I'm sure that cougar is LONG gone since there was only one cel phone video captured, but if you want to see other photos of lions in Wisconsin, there are some pretty good trail cam captures here...... http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/wildlifehabitat/cougar.html But for the most part, they're nocturnal and they don't care for the city so no lion photos from me.

    Actually here's a couple from a few years back when our lion at the zoo had a few cubs......
    6446493525_7cb9a1142a_b. P1020871-HDR by Luke, on Flickr

    6446501615_10176e211c_b. P1020852-HDR by Luke, on Flickr

    6446504771_4affe9166f_b. P1020866-HDR by Luke, on Flickr

    6446489291_e7176fa0bb_b. mother lion nursing by Luke, on Flickr

    and here's the proud Papa

    6446486631_8fcb2ba8ec_b. P1020915-HDR by Luke, on Flickr
     
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  20. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    Gorgeous shots, Luke. We love all cats, big and small :):)
     
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