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Images revisited with different processing

Discussion in 'Black and White' started by grebeman, Aug 11, 2013.

  1. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
    Barrie
    Following some comments and critique on recent images posted I've revisited some of them and post the new and original interpretations here for any comment people might like to make.

    These are the new, and smoother (non technical term :smile:) images

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    1050556-b_w_asp_.

    1090357-b_w_asp_.

    1090365-b_w_asp_.


    compared to the original rougher? images


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    1050556-b_w.

    1090357-b_w.

    1090365-b_w.

    Note that in the second image (man and boy) I think heat haze off the boiler and boiler backhead accounts for some of the shimmering effect seen in the background, particularly behind the flywheel.



    Barrie
     
  2. ivoire

    ivoire SC All-Pro

    Dec 3, 2011
    chicago burbs
    mike
    I like them both. The "rougher' version better fits the theme IMO
     
  3. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I generally like them a little grittier, but I think the first two benefit from a smoother look. The last work well either way, but I definitely prefer the plough horse grittier and the one above it I like 'em both about equal.
     
  4. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
    Barrie
    I'm probably with you Luke, I think I prefer 1 and 2 with the "smoother" look, but my love of clouds means my first "rougher" or indeed "grittier" interpretation of number four is my favourite of the two.
     
  5. ReD

    ReD SC Hall of Famer

    Mar 27, 2013
    Smoother 1& 2 for me too

    I meant to say the Gent in the first looks as if he has had his fingers crushed a bit
     
  6. ajramirez

    ajramirez SC All-Pro

    Jul 9, 2010
    Caguas, Puerto Rico
    Antonio
    I like the new interpretation better on all of them. Wonderful photographs in either interpretation, though.
     
  7. romi.gilles

    romi.gilles SC Veteran

    338
    Jun 8, 2013
    idk anymore. all over the country.
    romi gilles
    i generally prefer the smoother look for b&w, myself.

    (Sent from my EVO via Tapatalk)
     
  8. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    Aesthetics are interesting things.
    Looking at #1 again, if I had to pick between the two versions of the whole image, I'd prefer the "smoother" one; On the other hand, if a 3/4 crop were made (lopping off the bottom ΒΌ), I'd prefer the "coarse" version.

    Did you establish what had produced the "mosaic" effect, Barrie? I'd never seen anything remotely like it before ...
     
  9. grebeman

    grebeman Old Codgers Group

    Jul 13, 2010
    South Brent, south Devon (UK)
    Barrie
    The short answer is no. I do recall something similar on an image I made many moons ago with my 15mm Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar lens on a GF1, the results of which are probably buried deep in the mu-43 site. From memory I think I concluded that it was function of the particular image editor used and that it didn't occur with a different editor.

    My reprocessing was actually done with AfterShotPro, the replacement for Bibble Pro 5 that I used to use extensively, rather than Photo Ninja that I used for the gritter images. The absolute minimum of adjustment was done to the raw file, basically a slight adjustment of the exposure value and some fill light followed by a save to a 16 bit tiff. After adjustment of the tiff in SEP2 it was flattened, reduced to a grayscale image and some sharpening applied in CS2 using unsharp mask applied in small incremental stages, not all at once. What I didn't do that I used to do was to apply the sharpening the luminence channel only in lab mode.

    I feel a revision of my techniques is on the cards with a return to the basic processes that I used to use in earlier days.

    Barrie
     
  10. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    I definitely like the first one better with the new treatment. I think I prefer all of the others with the grittier original processing, with the possible exception of the third, where the guy's face is a little too dark in the original. But if that level was raised a bit, I think I'd like the original version of that one too. Probably explains something about my own processing too....

    -Ray