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Interesting quote

Discussion in 'The Watering Hole' started by wt21, May 5, 2014.

  1. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    "Over the last century the camera has emerged and evolved as a popular art form, culminating, in this moment of the selfie. In our phones, the camera has become something other than it has ever been, demonstrating just how the technology and culture of the Internet has changed humankind. … Social media gives us each the power to share our selves with the world, and so we don't share our view of the world anymore—that would be pointless as any view in the world is merely a Google image search away. Instead, we share our view of ourselves."

    —The Daily Dot contributor Nicholas White [thedailydot.com, 4/24/14]
     
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  2. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    While the supposition that the camera's evolution has culminated in the selfie is ludicrous, the observation about sharing is indeed interesting. Makes me wonder where we truly go from here.
     
  3. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Makes me wanna gag.
     
  4. john m flores

    john m flores SC All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2012
    The roots of our age of fear and narcism is nicely documented in "Century of the Self", a BBC documentary. Highly recommended.

    Hard to find, but here's the first episode on Vimeo

    [video=vimeo;67977038]http://vimeo.com/67977038[/video]
     
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  5. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Precisely. The evolution of the camera will be culminated when I take a Selfie.:yahoo::yahoo:
     
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  6. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    This reminds me of the chap who declared "the end of history" when the Berlin Wall fell...

    I smell the same sort of pseudo-intellectual pretentious bullsh1t as is found in the pages of "Camera Lucida"
     
  7. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    oh dear
     
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  8. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    Roland Barthes was hardly a "pseudo" intellectual. You might not like the way he expressed himself or perhaps the way he was translated, but he was "the real deal"
     
  9. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    Ah perhaps I was not clear. I am well aware of Barthes, and the cathartic context in which he wrote Camera Lucida. It is the book that is pseudo-intellectual pretentious bullsh1t, not the man. His concepts of stadium and punctum have encouraged more twaddle than a Simon Cowell vehicle.
     
  10. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    Oh well I found it interesting useful and thought-provoking to read. The fact that it contains some conceptually suspect material doesn't make it rubbish, any more than it makes the Tractatus rubbish.

    But as ever, chacun à son goût.

    Back on topic, however, Mr. White doesn't really seem to have grasped the idea that making an image of the self expressly implies the expression of a view of the world.

    Still, clear thinking has always been in very short supply in the world, and the elevation of all and every opinion to public view via the "blogosphere" only serves to confirm that.

    get off my lawn
     
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  11. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    I'm not nearly as well read to keep up with the discussion here at the bottom half of the thread, but all I was thinking was, if you feel like you can find an image in a second, and it may be a better image than the one you take, then why bother? I felt this on my recent trip to Bryce Canyon. I did take pictures, but I remember distinctly feeling like I didn't need to shoot that many, because it's all available to show to my family on the internet, when I get back.

    For us older types, who grew up without the internet, we might see this quite differently than the younger ones who grow up with the world on their cell phone. If taking pictures of the Eiffel tour is no longer needed to share the view with your family, then maybe putting yourself in the picture makes it different/unique, and therefore the selfie.
     
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  12. BillN

    BillN SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 25, 2010
    S W France
    Bill
    For me, the cumulation of the camera is a Nikon D4S with the new Nikon 800mm f5.6 lens stuck on the end of it........... but I'm simplistic and that would be greedy

    you can stick your camera phone selfie's up you Barack Obama, (don't get me wrong I like the guy and so does my wife)......... all this social media and similar stuff is a load of rubbish created to make money for the capitalist US, (don't get me wrong, I liked the country, but not sure about my wife)
     
  13. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    You're not sure you like your wife?
    Have you told her that?
     
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  14. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    My first reaction to that quote was that I didn't think that way at all. The only social media I am involved in are a couple of photo forums (99% of which is right here) and Flickr...in that I have gotten to be friends with some of the photographers on there and enjoy the give and take..

    I will say, however, that if I were on a trip with friends and/or family, my desire would certainly include having pictures of those on the trip with me, with the scenic/historical/interesting backdrop as well as without them. As for having my self in any of the photos, that doesn't happen often since I tend to be the one with the camera - however, I'd be quite glad to have myself in one or two of the pictures for memory's sake...my own and ultimately my offspring's for when I'm no longer around.

    P.S. Paul, I'm sure Bill will get a kick out of your remark!
     
  15. BillN

    BillN SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 25, 2010
    S W France
    Bill
    not this evening she is making supper

    and I'll be "ringing" the bell soon for my first glass of red!!!!
     
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