Is the Original Sony RX100 Still Relevent?

Discussion in 'Sony RX100 Forum' started by Biro, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Is the original RX100 still relevent? I'm looking around for something that's as pocketable as my Fuji XF1 but with more-reliable autofocus and better low-light ability. And Big Value is currently selling the Mark I on eBay for $384. Sure, I'd like the EVF and faster lens of the Mark III, but it's more than twice the money. It's also not quite as easily pants or shirt pocketable as the original. I don't use the XF1 all that often so perhaps the Mark III isn't worth it. But maybe the Mark III would cause me to use my pocketable camera more often. Any thoughts an whether the original RX100 still has a place?
     
  2. Briar

    Briar SC All-Pro

    Oct 27, 2010
    Scotland
    Karen
    I hope so, I still have mine!
     
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  3. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    No, like all digital cameras it has a special chip that stops it taking good photographs as soon as a newer verion is released ...
     
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  4. Chris2500dk

    Chris2500dk SC Top Veteran

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    Dec 22, 2011
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Definetely still relevant. if you want a camera that size with a zoom lens the only way to get better is to get the mk2/3 or the Canon G7X. And the RX100 will take just as good pictures in most situations.
     
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  5. donlaw

    donlaw SC All-Pro

    Sep 14, 2012
    Texas
    Don
    I had one and used it for a couple of years. I was very pleased with it. I only sold it out of a desire to try something new. I found that I did not use the zoom very much so moved on to the Coolpix A.
     
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  6. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Yes, I realize it still takes a good a photograph as it always did. :smile: It's a matter of whether it's a viable option given what's out there now. But the responses so far seem to back up what I was thinking.
     
  7. john m flores

    john m flores SC All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2012
    The biggest criticism of the RX100 was that the lens got slow really quickly as you zoomed in. So if you live mostly on the wide and reserve the long end for outdoors, then it's still a viable option.
     
  8. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    Refurbished ver II w/ tiltable screen/opt evf is selling for the same price...

    I used ver I for 2 years and I used it more on the wide side which is faster side of the zoom. I got a used (like new) ver III last week from KEH with their last minute 10% sale. I went back to RX100 after my trials with g7x and LX100... I did a test yesterday but I haven't downloaded yet but it felt like it is the same af as ver I which I was happy with (not like g7x which backfocused with the macro/close range). I will check low light af if there is a change but I doubt it.

    Adv of ver I
    -Faster 28-35mm range and longer 100mm reach.
    -Size is a little smaller due to built in lcd screen
    -Cheaper.

    Adv of ver III
    -24mm reach and pretty much f2.8 zoom after that (28-70mm)...
    - Tiltable screen w/ selfie mode
    - EVF which is amazing, easily I can hand hold it at 1/10 sec at 70mm f2.8
    -Same 1/30sec min at wide end, but auto ISO in M mode to adjust that
    -Auto ND filter (you need it to shoot widen open in day light esp f1.8-2)

    Mine came w/ extra battery and Sony grip which I prefer over the third party grips, since Franiec grip fell down from the ver I Asi-Akahi leather skin...

    Downside for me is the warranty esp after 1st one failed after 2 years and the evf in the ver III might have a high chance of failing considering the mechanical movements it requires. I think KEH has short term warranty on the used equipment. So overall it is worth it for the price difference, but then when you look at the overall cost of RX100, it is a better deal with same sensor/body set up.

    You can download Capture 1 to edit Sony raw images free of charge and pro Sony version is only $30 more...

    Hopefully some other manufacturer will use the same 1" sensor, but with 4K video becoming popular I think some will stay with 12MP threshold until the 8K comes with the 2020 Olympics per Panasonic interview:)
     
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  9. alex66

    alex66 SC Rookie

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    Jul 29, 2012
    I still use cameras that pre date it; Ricoh GX100, Lumix LX3, any camera except maybe some of the real budget specials of the last 5-6 years will take some great photographs with in their limitations and most importantly the photographers input. So if you think you will get some good use out of it and pleasure from it then it is highly relevant.
     
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  10. bilzmale

    bilzmale Super Moderator Emeritus

    Jul 17, 2010
    Perth, Western Australia
    Bill Shinnick
    There is a bigger gap between the original X100 and what went before it than the gap between it and series II and III. As said above it wins on price still today.
     
  11. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Relevant as in whether it is still a capable camera, or revelant as in being able to talk about it and be met with much nodding of heads and mutual backslapping?
     
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  12. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Same basic innards, slower but longer lens, much lower price. No EVF but it's a pocket rocket, right? Sounds fine to me.
     
  13. Arup Roy Chowdhury

    Arup Roy Chowdhury SC Regular

    125
    Jul 24, 2013
    I still have the original RX100 and even though I regularly test new offerings, none have given me the reason to switch yet.
     
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  14. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    I remembered that Huff just bought one, of course it is the $1000 Hassy version:
    http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2014/12/02/hasselblad-stellar-special-edition-video-samples/
    Funny as it is, RX100 I and II has the same lens and sensor...

    Here is how to make the cheaper version of the Hassy: First, a leatherette skin from Aki-Asahi:
    http://aki-asahi.com/store/html/RX100/Leather/RX100_LeatherKit.php
    & a wood grip
    http://www.amazon.com/Premium-RX100...TF8&qid=1420141371&sr=8-2&keywords=rx100+grip
    But I prefer the cheaper Sony grip
    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AGR2-Att...TF8&qid=1420141371&sr=8-1&keywords=rx100+grip
     
  15. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    I still have mine. It is by no stretch a "pleasure" to use, but it's super small, and I have never (not once, not ever) been disappointed with the results. I have not felt the need to move to mk ii or mk iii.
     
  16. mattia

    mattia SC Regular

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    Dec 20, 2013
    The mark II sensor is different I believe, possibly the same as the mark III (backlit).
     
  17. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    This is correct. The Mark II and Mark III share the backlit one-inch sensor. The one-inch sensor in the original is not backlit.
     
  18. Arup Roy Chowdhury

    Arup Roy Chowdhury SC Regular

    125
    Jul 24, 2013
    The original is FSI while the later ones are BSI.
     
  19. Chris2500dk

    Chris2500dk SC Top Veteran

    598
    Dec 22, 2011
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Not even sure that the mk2 and mk3 share the same sensor, the mk2 has a base ISO of 160, the mk3 has a base ISO of 125.
     
  20. Arup Roy Chowdhury

    Arup Roy Chowdhury SC Regular

    125
    Jul 24, 2013
    They all share same sensor except original has FSI and the other two BSI. However all have different BIONZ processor.