Konost Full Frame Rangefinder concept

Discussion in 'Other Interchangeable-Lens Systems' started by gryphon1911, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 SC Top Veteran

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  2. jloden

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    Jay
    That would be awesome, I hope it makes it to market. I would love to see more true rangefinder options in the digital arena. Having finally started shooting with a rangefinder I finally understand why they have such diehard supporters. I'd be more than happy to have an affordable digital rangefinder I can pair with my M-mount glass!
     
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  3. tonyturley

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    Tony
    That is simply beautiful. Thanks for sharing the link.
     
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  4. john m flores

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    Aug 13, 2012
    Simply Leica T lol!
     
  5. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
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    The design is cold....and not in a good way. I wish them luck, but more than that I just wish Voigtlander would make a digital Bessa.
     
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  6. jloden

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    Jay
    Yeah, it bears more than a passing resemblance to the T... bad call on their part if you ask me. Just asking for a smackdown from Leica if they get anywhere with this.

    I've thought the same thing more than once!
     
  7. SnapDawg

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    ... and Olympus a digital remake of the OM1/2. Same dials - card & battery slot - no LCD,... Period. Everything else via conversion software.
     
  8. Richard

    Richard SC Top Veteran

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    A digital version of an Olympus RD for me, please.

    Although actually, a digital Trip would do equally well. Zone focussing a 40mm f2.8 lens was never an issue, as I recall.

    -R
     
  9. KillRamsey

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    Kyle
    I like it. I don't own any of those lenses, but ... I'm sure I'd enjoy using it. I wonder how much better the 20MP FF files would be than the XT1 files, and if that would make it worth it. Suspect possibly not. And in the meantime, if I want a shooting experience like this, I can get it much cheaper with film, I guess.
     
  10. drd1135

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    Jul 13, 2011
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    Steve
    It's neat but it takes a lot of money to launch something like this. I'd consider an all manual camera from a control standpoint, but I wouldn't give up the LCD. It's too much a part of my method these days.
     
  11. gryphon1911

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    Andrew
    Agree, no reason to give up the benefits of digital.

    I cannot image this being inexpensive either, as their volume would not be enough to justify a small margin. While it might not be Leica money, I can't imagine it being prosumer DSLR or mirrorless price either.
     
  12. dalethorn

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    It looks great. If it's not touchscreen it won't compete with the 'T', and BTW the 'T' is not a rangefinder. I hadn't thought that someone would try to simplify the rangefinder, but if they go all the way and make a good rangefinder that's easy for average folks to use, that could be interesting. The formula for success shouldn't be too hard to figure out: Reasonable price, good looks, ease of use, results....
     
  13. MoonMind

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    I like the idea a lot, though I'm not that impressed with the looks (I'm not into modern for modern's sake) - but the concept is right up my alley, and I could certainly live with the gestalt. I'd simply like a couple more dials (ISO and exposure compensation, to be exact), though I could probably work around the omission.

    M.
     
  14. Ray Sachs

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    you should be able to figure it out...
    The way I read it, the ONLY controls are aperture, shutter speed, and ISO. There's an aperture ring for aperture, a shutter speed dial for shutter speed, and there are two buttons on the back, which I have to imagine are up and down buttons for ISO. From what I can tell, there are NO OTHER controls, no menus, no rear dial, no nothing. Fully manual. So, if that's the case, there's no need for an ISO dial (unless you just prefer a dial to two buttons) and there's no need for exposure compensation since it's all manual, so you just dial in some positive or negative exposure when you're setting shutter speed and aperture.

    I personally have no, none, zero, zip, zilch interest in a camera that can't do aperture priority or auto-ISO, so I'm not in the market for this puppy AT ALL, but I think that the three controls you need for absolutely fully manual photography are there. I guess there's no reviewing photos, just current live view, because I don't see any control to switch the rear screen to review mode... Unless I'm wrong about the two buttons just being to set ISO...

    -Ray
     
  15. KillRamsey

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    Kyle
    If it was a WYSIWYG electronic viewfinder, then I could live with it being fully manual. I sometimes wind up there on the XT1 anyway, just roaming around tweaking the aperture ring to fine tune each shot as I go.
     
  16. MoonMind

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    Ray: I read their site, the camera is going to have aperture priority - or else I wouldn't have been interested either.

    I'm fine with absolutely minimal controls, though, just ISO control and (in case I read this correctly) exposure compensation would be nice (ISO is mandatory, but I'd prefer a dial ...).

    M.
     
  17. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Hmmm, I'll be interested to see how it works then. There doesn't seem to be any sort of menu button or dial to select values or anything of the sort. Maybe some combination of button presses with those two buttons. Which at a certain point, get's more complicated rather than less. Or maybe these are such early prototypes they haven't worked through those details yet?

    -Ray
     
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  18. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
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    Ray, it's not an actual camera. I think it's more of an artist's conceptualization....probably by someone who isn't a photographer
     
  19. drd1135

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    Steve
    I originally hadn't noticed the website URL. It looks like they've worked up the innards in terms of hardware. Firmware is another issue. I can only think about how Olympus and Panasonic users argue about jpeg quality to understand how tricky this part can be. Given that it has an LCD I'm sure it will have playback. Price is critical. It looks like they are proposing FF and APS-C ILCs and a 1" fixed lens compact, all with the DRF focussing capability. (Hopefully they are kidding about calling the compact the Konost Jr. :rolleyes:) Price will be critical. Will people pay $2K for the FF version? $1000 for the APS-C? I'm not really knowledgeable about the cost of M mouth lenses. There are "cheaper" ones, right, by companies like Voigtlander?
     
  20. dalethorn

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    I like what Panasonic did with the LX100/Leica D-Lux -- exp. comp. dial, shutter, aperture dials, and auto options.
     
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