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Leica announced 16 new cameras and lenses in one single day!

Discussion in 'Leica M Forum' started by serhan, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    Leica announces plenty of new cameras and lenses!

    Leica M-A, film camera & summarit lenses
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    Leica D-Lux
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    Leica X (113)
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    Leica X-E
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    & lenses

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    Also Zeiss Distagon T* 35mm F1.4 ZM lens
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  2. christilou

    christilou SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2010
    Sunny Frimley
    Well someone must have put a rocket under them finally!
     
  3. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    wow! that's interesting.
    What really baffles me is that they release a camera called X-E, which is basically a renamed X2 (24/2.8), but also a camera called X, with a 23/1.7 lens (both APSC). Why not differentiate a bit more in terms of focal length? Sure, there's a ~1.5 stop difference, as well as a 1mm focal length difference :)dash2:) but is it really worthwile to build 2 new cameras that are so close?
     
  4. Richard

    Richard SC Top Veteran

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    Feb 1, 2013
    Marlow, UK
    The D-Lux looks strangely familiar, doesn't it?

    -R
     
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  5. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    ^so does the V-lux...
     
  6. Burkey

    Burkey SC Top Veteran

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    Apr 18, 2011
    Northern New England
    (Insert large grin here.) That DLux does have a bit of a Fuji-esque sorta' look to it, doesn't it. :rolleyes: Interesting.
    . . . David
     
  7. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    The X (Typ 113) for me (And it might be criminal to some, but I think I'd choose the brown!)
     
  8. john m flores

    john m flores SC All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2012
    That's a New Camera News headline right there!
     
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  9. biglouis

    biglouis SC Veteran

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    Aug 4, 2013
    Is the D-LUX the rebadged Panasonic m43rds camera that was announced yesterday?

    Ironic if it is because Leica has always been very snobby about m43rds which I think has been a mistake.

    LouisB
     
  10. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    It's the new Pana alright. I'd be more interested in this as an alternative carry to the Leica T, if the larger T had a built-in EVF and the DLux did not, but since they're backwards (based on a peculiar demographic), I guess not.
     
  11. RT Panther

    RT Panther SC All-Pro

    Dec 25, 2012
    IMHO/2 cents/2 pence....
    You have to take sensor firmware into account with Leica.

    A perfect example is how Pentax & Nikon firmware handle Sony sensors in comparison to Sony's own firmware :smile:
     
  12. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    ^true, but with those cameras, the entire (physical) pipeline from the sensor to the processor is also different, not just the software. On the PanaLeicas, as far as I'm aware, the only differences are in the jpeg engine.
     
  13. Archiver

    Archiver SC Top Veteran

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    Jul 11, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    I'm guessing that Leica still consider the X1/2 a viable product. The X2 (henceforth the X-E) is a pocket sized camera, whereas the X is based on the larger X Vario body. It's more of a dedicated neck/shoulder camera than pocket cam. Another guess is that the 23/1.7 lens of the X is too big for the body of the X-E.

    I'd be far more inclined to buy the X than the X-E or the X Vario. I tried the X1 for a day and it didn't float my boat at all, and while the X Vario feels and handles so much better, the slow lens bugs me a lot. Not that I need another camera, goodness no. But I definitely see the appeal of the X.
     
  14. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    well THIS is the Leica I'd like to have. http://petapixel.com/2014/09/16/lei...rates-60-years-m-series-lcd-less-rangefinder/

    They REPLACED THE LCD SCREEN WITH AN ISO DIAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Unfortunately I'm not their target customer. Or they have SERIOUSLY misjudged my camera budget for the year. I might just buy a lottery ticket tomorrow. I LOVE the idea of not being able to review an image on the camera (but am totally done with film).
     
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  15. Lawrence A.

    Lawrence A. SC All-Pro

    Nov 8, 2012
    New Mexico
    Larry
    Maybe the X-2 will come down to a point where I can finally buy a used one.
     
  16. Archiver

    Archiver SC Top Veteran

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    Jul 11, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    If I do end up with my hands on the new X 113, I'll be actively comparing it not only with the Fuji X100 and M9 + 35/1.4 Nokton, but also with the Panasonic GM1 with the Oly 17/1.8 and 25/1.8.

    Why the GM1?

    Well, because I can. :cool: But really, because the X 113 automatically stops down the aperture from f1.7 to f2.8 as the subject distance gets close to minimum. Leica state this is to preserve the best image quality, but that tells me that the lens has some aberrations or glow when wide open and up close. The Fuji X100 has the unfortunate trait of being soft and glowy when shooting minimum distance wide open, and it seems that the X 113 may have the same issues.

    If it forces f2.8 at the minimum distance of 20cm, the depth of field might actually be more like the Oly 17/1.8 at that distance. At longer distances, the f1.7 lens will definitely produce more subject separation than the Oly, but up close? We shall see!
     
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  17. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
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  18. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    Interesting camera.