Loving the X10 again...

Discussion in 'Fuji Forum' started by Ray Sachs, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    As I'd mentioned, I just couldn't bond with the RX100 despite its amazing sensor, so I picked up another X10 last week after finding a stock of new-sensor (ie, no orbs) cameras at Best Buy. Spent some time shooting with it yesterday, both at a local street fair (chili festival, so everyone is eating) and just walking around town. I loved this camera when I had it the first time and I love it more now without having to worry about orbs (although I haven't shot with it at night yet, to take advantage of its orb-less-ness). Its IQ isn't quite up to the level of the RX100, particularly in low light, but its really really good. And the lens is better (particularly by being faster throughout the zoom range) and the handling is just waaaaaay better for my needs. And it has those great Fuji colors... Overall, a better tool for me. For street shooting I shoot at full resolution so I can crop and I don't worry about the ultimate in DR. For other stuff I leave it in medium resolution with the EXR functionality enabled and auto ISO and auto DR. The camera is just FUN to shoot with, a feeling I never managed to have with the RX100. Just really glad to have this camera back in my stable with the X-Pro and the OMD...

    Here are a few shots from the day. Nothing special, just fun stuff to be out shooting on a nice day:

    Some early Halloween decorations:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8090061071/" title="Chili Cook Off-176 by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"768" height="1024" alt="Chili Cook Off-176"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8090061281/" title="Chili Cook Off-177 by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"683" height="1024" alt="Chili Cook Off-177"></a>

    A couple of random shots, including the fallout from the Chili Fest:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8090044885/" title="Chili Cook Off-173-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"768" height="1024" alt="Chili Cook Off-173-Edit"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8090046271/" title="Chili Cook Off-97-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"768" height="1024" alt="Chili Cook Off-97-Edit"></a>

    And a few street shots (probably not for Luke :cool:):

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8090049104/" title="Chili Cook Off-57-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"800" height="800" alt="Chili Cook Off-57-Edit"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8090052710/" title="Chili Cook Off-8-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"800" height="800" alt="Chili Cook Off-8-Edit"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8090048558/" title="Chili Cook Off-86-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"800" height="800" alt="Chili Cook Off-86-Edit"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8090045899/" title="Chili Cook Off-126-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"800" height="800" alt="Chili Cook Off-126-Edit"></a>

    -Ray
     
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  2. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Nice set Ray (even the street shots :rolleyes:). So did you sell of the RX100, then? Or is this in addition to the Sony.
     
  3. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    My wife's birthday is today - I gave her the RX100. She'll use it in full auto anyway and it will be PERFECT for the kind of shooting she does, mostly inside her classroom with sometimes moving kids. Her previous compact wasn't up to the job most of the time (and I often had to try to fix mostly unfixable images) and the RX100 should be excellent for it. If she decides she doesn't like it (HIGHLY unlikely - but it doesn't have as long a zoom as her previous camera, so who knows), then I'll sell it at some point. For now, its still in the family and will probably live on in her purse... I doubt I'll use it anymore, although if we're out some evening and she has it with her and I see something I'd like to shoot, I can't promise I won't borrow it for the occasional shot, but its basically hers unless she decides she doesn't want it...

    -Ray
     
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  4. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Ray, my birthday is December 13th. I'll take an RX1 :wink:
     
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  5. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Heh heh. Talk to your wife - maybe she'll have one she's not crazy about...
     
  6. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    So glad you're back with that X10 again, Ray. Not that I'm biased or anything.:biggrin: It is a very handy camera.

    Looking forward to seeing more photos here and on Flickr as time goes by!
     
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  7. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    There are a few "handy cameras" out there - I guess its just down to personal fit. I had my eyes glazed by the sensor on the RX100 and it is every bit as good as advertised. But there's a lot more to a camera than the sensor and for me at least, the X10 is an overwhelmingly better camera. The RX100 just wasn't a very good camera for me other than the sensor. The X10 is better in every respect except the sensor and the sensor in the X10 isn't that far behind - its a stop or maybe a stop and a half in low light at the wide end but that advantage quickly disappears as you move through the zoom range. And the X10 is still very good in low light, just not quite AS good. Sort of like the OMD is very very good in low light, just not quite AS good as the X-Pro, but I still take out the OMD in low light sometimes instead of the X-Pro because its good enough and is a better camera for some types of uses...

    I really did fall in love with the X10 when I had it the first time. But I knew I couldn't trust it for night shooting in the urban areas I tend to favor because of the orbs and they even wrecked a few daylight shots, although not enough to matter. Once the orbs were solved, I should have just gotten another one and signed up to have the sensor replaced, but I figured I'd wait and then the RX100 came along and I guess I had to try it. In retrospect, that was a mistake, but I wouldn't have known that if I didn't spend some time with the RX100. Live and learn. :cool:

    -Ray
     
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  8. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    Great photos, Ray. I know what you mean about these cameras. I decided to give the RX100 a shot for several reasons, not the least of which was that it's what my Best Buy had in stock, but if I had to choose a "desert island camera", I'm pretty sure it would be the X10.
     
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  9. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    The RX100 is a great camera and if it fits your shooting style, you can't do any better in the compact segment today. For me, though, the tradeoffs just didn't work and the X10 seems to be in my sweet spot between IQ and features/handling. I hope you enjoy it - it never failed to impress me at what it did well.

    -Ray
     
  10. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

    Jul 15, 2010
    SoCal
    Bob
    "Desert Island Camera" is a great description, I love the X10 but there are times when I think do not use it enough and have thought of selling it. But then I throw it my bag, shoot with it again and remember what a smile it brings to my face to use this little camera. One of the best of the “Handy” cameras.
    Ray love the images
     
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  11. Neiltluck

    Neiltluck SC Regular

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    Apr 20, 2012
    Derbyshire, England
    Neil Luck
    Ray, I am loving your shots!

    Please do not ever get rid of your X10 again...ever!

    Can you tell me what PP you used on the set....particularly the B&W's.

    Thanks,

    Neil
     
  12. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Thanks so much Neil. The processing on the B&W shots is mostly done in Silver Efex Pro after some very minor tweaks in Lightroom. No particular secrets, just play with the sliders until it looks right. Usually add a few control points to most shots. The color shots are just Lightroom with Color Efex Pro used for the borders...

    -Ray
     
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  13. Pelao

    Pelao SC All-Pro

    Jul 11, 2010
    Ontario, Canada
    Stephen
    I agree Ray; hang on to it.
     
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  14. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    Ray, I love the shots. I have just come back from Copenhagen, having taken my Leica MP as main, and the Fuji as backup (I also had my GRDIII in a pocket, 'cos I LOVE "HiBW" :wink: ). The X10 is such a nice handling camera that produces splendid results. It ain't pocketable, but then not much in life that is worthwhile, is... :biggrin:
     
  15. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    A couple more from a walk with my dog. I love the Velvia over-saturated colors so much I can't help but over-do them just a bit more. Reality has never been my obsession!

    -Ray

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8102427053/" title="Stroud with Millie-27-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"1024" height="683" alt="Stroud with Millie-27-Edit"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20889767@N05/8102439358/" title="Stroud with Millie-11-Edit by ramboorider1, on Flickr">"1024" height="1024" alt="Stroud with Millie-11-Edit"></a>
     
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  16. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Really nice. FYI, firmware 2.0 is out for the x10. The major change is the addition of a quick menu when you press the raw button.
     
  17. Gary

    Gary SC All-Pro

    Aug 19, 2012
    Southern California
    Gary Ayala
    Ray, one of these days you'll settle down with one camera system and start delivering some decent images.

    Gary

    (PS- Nice stuff.)
     
  18. Neiltluck

    Neiltluck SC Regular

    110
    Apr 20, 2012
    Derbyshire, England
    Neil Luck
    Great shots Ray.

    I'm with you all the way on this. I like my images to "pop" too.
     
  19. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Steve - I upgraded the first day I had the X10 - a definite improvement I knew well from the X-Pro.

    Neil - oversaturaters of the world unite!

    Gary - thanks and god I hope not! When I played a lot of guitar I had three instruments (one acoustic, two electrics) for playing different kind of music. When I was heavily into cycling I had a few different bikes for different types of riding - I'm not into it now but I still have three (one for knocking around town and two serious road bikes with different geometry and different attitudes about them - I also used to have a mountain bike and cyclocross bike and fixed gear). Now that I'm into cameras, I continue to like the variety in the shooting experience. None of my gear is all that complicated - I'm able to learn it and commit the controls to muscle memory even when I change between cameras/systems. Kind of like having Campy on one bike and Shimano on another - it takes you about 30 seconds at the beginning of each ride to remember what you're working with and then its automatic - same with my camera gear. The OMD excels at some things, the X-Pro at some other things (with some overlap), and its always nice to have a compact do-it-all for when that's all you want to carry and think about... But I can switch between them and be perfectly at home with the new piece of gear I pick up VERY quickly...

    -Ray
     
  20. demiro

    demiro Serious Compacts For Life

    527
    Dec 15, 2011
    Ray, I see your X10 is up for sale. I have to ask: What is replacing it? Did the Sony grow on you?