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My new (old) camera arrived: Panasonic GX1

Discussion in 'Micro Four Thirds Forum' started by entropic remnants, May 21, 2013.

  1. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    I picked one up since they are so cheap. It will be hacked with ptool and Sanity 5.1 parameter set and used for both still photography and where I need video with higher motion quality.

    It's been in my signature for a couple of days now, but it really just got here. I've gotten really used to and become a fan of certain aspects of Panasonic's ergonomics and image qualities.
     
  2. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    Nice! I really like their ergonomics too, if the sensor had been up to OM-D level or thereabouts in terms of high ISO, and if the jpeg engine had a bit better reputation, I might have gone for one. Enjoy it!
     
  3. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    Well, I have an E-M5 also, lol. Best of both worlds.
     
  4. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    Pleased to report that the ptool hack for the gx1 firmware and the Sanity 5.1 parameter set works GREAT. I'm getting peak bit rates in the 46 Mbps range and averaging north of 31 Mbps on just a pan around my work shop -- values per the open source MediaInfo program.

    That's better than twice what it does out of the box. Very nice.
     
  5. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Loved the ergos of the GX1, especially impressive given how small the camera is. It did very nice b&w images, too.
     
  6. pictogramax

    pictogramax SC Top Veteran

    978
    Aug 18, 2011
    Belgrade, Serbia
    >> I'm getting peak bit rates in the 46 Mbps range and averaging north of 31 Mbps on just a pan around my work shop -- values per the open source MediaInfo program. <<

    Could not understand a word, but I hope at least it's not a medical condition :) Congratulation on new camera!
     
  7. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    ^ +1
     
  8. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Ain't nuthin' wrong with a GX1. I have one. Enjoy.
     
  9. lcsolla

    lcsolla SC Regular

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    Sep 5, 2011
    Lisbon, Portugal
    Luis Castro e Solla
    One extra advantage of the GX1 is being able to use the same viewfinder of the LX7. I have the GF2, and its image quality is not bad at all; but its optional viewfinder is poor, and I would say you gain one extra stop by going with the GX1. I find the ergonomics of the three cameras - LX7, GF2 and GX1 - very good, I would not be surprised if they had been jointly conceived with Leica. Finally, at the current price, you cannot go wrong: Panasonic may launch a better GX2, but it shall be more expensive - and I may be wrong, but I do not think that the OM-D is an order of magnitude better than the GX1 as far as image quality is concerned.
     
  10. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    I have to agree. The E-M5 has one main advantage: dynamic range. It has approaching 2 stops at base ISO over the GX1. However, if you go look at DXOmark, you see that the advantage pretty much is insignificant by the time you hit ISO 800.

    I'm actually surprised more fuss hasn't been made about the Panasonic sensor when it came out. I really like the G3/GX1 and G5/GH2 sensors. For the most part, I don't feel like I'm losing a lot not shooting the E-M5. If it wasn't for the E-M5's IBIS, it might be on the block and I might be thinking about a GH3 instead. But for now at least, the E-M5 stays -- it has certain advantages I don't want to lose.
     
  11. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    I think there was a fair amount of "fuss" over that sensor at the time. There was minor disappointment that it didn't quite match the GH2, but overall it was still the second best m43 sensor out there at the time, and a pretty close second at that. It enticed me to try a G3 despite really not liking the GH2 I'd had previously. Turned out I didn't much like the G3 either, but it wasn't because of the sensor (nor was it with the GH2)...

    -Ray
     
  12. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    Yes, camera handling is a very personal thing. That's why there are so MANY designs, lol.
     
  13. Stan

    Stan SC Regular

    164
    Apr 19, 2013
    California
    Stan
    Given that you like panasonic ergo (I do also!), you'll get on fine with it. I like the grip ad overall feel. I eventually sold mine, because my style of photography often relies on shadow pulls of landscapes and also long exposures. So I benefit from the Oly(Sony) sensor. I got along well with the GX1.

    Heck at these prices I've been tempted to pick one up!
     
  14. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    My impression of the GX1 sensor was that it had very limited highlight headroom, noticeably less than the older GH1. Other than that it seemed pretty good, but I've never tried one at high ISOs.
     
  15. lcsolla

    lcsolla SC Regular

    109
    Sep 5, 2011
    Lisbon, Portugal
    Luis Castro e Solla
    Just two taken with a GX1 + 14-42X. At full resolution (which I cannot show here) the details of the foliage are amazing.

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  16. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    I just did one of my little hybrid videos using the GX1 and posted it here.
     
  17. Livnius

    Livnius SC Veteran

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    Jun 3, 2012
    Melbourne. Australia
    Joe
    Always loved the GX1 handling....even though the overall versatility and sensor of the E-M5 is superior I believe, the handling and feel of the GX1 i still miss. If the Oly had a right hand side grip like the GX1 I never would have forked out the $240 for the add-on grip.
     
  18. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Clear, pixel-level detail has always been a strong suit of the Panasonic sensors.
     
  19. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Yup. Even if one is shooting jpgs, Panny's image processing has consistently allowed a bit more noise in the image so that more detail is preserved. It's not a shortcoming - it's a philosophy.
     
  20. alessandro

    alessandro SC Regular

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    Sep 5, 2011
    Vicenza, Italy
    +1
    The GX1/G3 sensor is very close to the OMD's one in terms of noise performance. Just a tad more color-noise, but very good detail.
    Where it falls short, is in dynamic range: if that's what you're looking for, the Sony sensor is really superior.
    The other downside of the GX1, for me, is the clunky shutter.
    For the rest, I believe it's got a more dependable focusing system than the Oly, but this is a very personal and possibly controversial opinion.
    All in all, at these prices, the GX1 is a must-buy.