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My scenic photos from the new iPhone 6s-Plus camera.

Discussion in 'Scenic, Architecture, and Travel' started by dalethorn, Nov 7, 2015.

  1. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    This is from the new '6s' series phone. I don't know if this 6s-plus camera has any advantage over the 6s, as the iPhone 6-plus camera had over the iPhone 6. In any case, there is an obvious gain in resolution over the 8 mp phone cameras, but the noise suppression smearing is about the same in any of these. I hope to post some handheld night shots soon, since the iPhone 6 and 6s seems to do better against a lot of small cameras in that respect.

    iPhone 6s-plus.
    Charleston_Bridge33_s.
     
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  2. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Great shot. Nothing about that says cell phone. It's amazing how good those cameras have become.
     
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  3. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    My second image with the new iPhone 6s-Plus. I think Apple got the formula right for their phones. I don't see a significant gain in quality from the increased pixels, but the noise processing they do when the image has decent lighting and contrast is very good.

    iPhone 6s-Plus, handheld.
    Charleston_Downtown39_s.
     
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  4. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    I'm glad this is 2015 and not 1965. Some of what Apple is aiming for with their camera is strongly reminiscent of Kodak and those enhanced-color Kodak Moments. Either Apple is cognizant of accurate color beyond the general public's tastes, or their involvement in accurate color processing for photographers is acting as a check on the iPhone developments.
     
  5. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    The detail in that second shot looks a little bit more phone-camera like than anything in the first one, which is incredible. Maybe it's the proximity of foliage in the second one or something. Both are great if you don't look too closely though... And both blow the doors off of what I generally get from my iphone 6+ (non-"C")... The again, I've never tried to get particularly ambitious with my phone cams. I know BB, who used to hang out here a lot, has been shooting pretty much exclusively with her iphone 5 for quite a while now and some of her results are amazing, so maybe it's not the camera... ;)

    -Ray
     
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  6. dalethorn

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    Unfortunately, it is the camera. The foliage is always worst-case, and when the original image with this kind of detail is less than 3 mb in size, something has to give. But I can see it in the bridge shot too - the water at bottom to the left and right of center is smeared, and the cables on the bridge aren't perfectly straight and smooth. Still, without trying to make big prints, there's nothing I do on the Internet that requires better. But if I were selling, the real cameras would definitely be needed.
     
  7. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    And that reminds me - you can tell with the puffy clouds too. With a full-frame or half-frame camera the clouds would have smooth to whispy edges, whereas these clouds almost look painted in.
     
  8. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    More iPhone 6s images: I took several exposures of the mannequins, and this one was the only one that came out reasonably sharp. And that was good lighting. A mystery to me. The graffiti was easy to make look good. Hardly a challenge. For the shot of the park, pier, and bridge in a light fog at night, handheld, I took 6 exposures, and 2 of those looked like this - the other 4 were extremely noisy. I may be getting inconsistent results because I keep the HDR setting always ON. But the camera always saves the original.

    iPhone 6s-plus, handheld.
    Charleston_Downtown42_s.

    iPhone 6s-plus, handheld.
    Charleston_Downtown41_s.

    iPhone 6s-plus, handheld.
    Mtpleasant_Park22_s.
     
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  9. Chris2500dk

    Chris2500dk SC Top Veteran

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    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Phone cameras sure came a long way, but it's still a long way to go before I'd use one instead of putting my Ricoh GR in a pocket if I intend to take pictures and don't want to carry much.
     
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  10. dalethorn

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    I have a Nikon Coolpix A that's small and easy to carry, but it's a 28 mm perspective. If I find a pocket camera with an effective 35 mm fixed lens with 4/3 or better sensor, smaller and slimmer than the Nikon, I might buy it. But this project is just an exploration.
     
  11. Tilman Paulin

    Tilman Paulin SC Top Veteran

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    Nov 15, 2011
    Dublin, Ireland
    Apple certainly has color and white-balance figured out.
    And in a phone camera - which is mostly about convenience - that's kind of the most important aspect in my opinion...
     
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  12. dalethorn

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    They really do - it's why I mentioned the Kodak Moment thing from years ago - the dread that any of the important photo companies would go that route and over-enrich their colors. So what Apple is doing is compensating some of the shortcomings of their camera by being more consistent in other respects.
     
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  13. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    Today's images with iPhone 6s-plus:
    1) A new local pier record, spotted trout, 25.5 inches and 6 lb 3 oz.
    2) Mt. Pleasant Memorial Park (wars memorial).
    3) Cooper River, loading docks, container ship.

    iPhone 6s-plus handheld.
    Mtpleasant_Jerry10_s.

    iPhone 6s-plus handheld.
    Mtpleasant_Park23_s.
    iPhone 6s-plus handheld.
    Mtpleasant_Park24_s.
     
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  14. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    IIRC the significant difference between the 6S and 6s+ is that the Plus has image stabilisation. Cant remember if the 6Plus did.
     
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  15. dalethorn

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    The 6+ had stabilization over the 6, and while the 6s+ has stabilization, I haven't heard that the 6s doesn't. I just don't know. The 6s+ ability to take certain night shots handheld without offensive or excess noise is amazing to me. I would also regard it as a near-ideal candid portrait camera, except it is prone to serious perspective distortions if not careful.
     
  16. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    What does the 6s+ have over the 6+... Is it a different sensor?
     
  17. pniev

    pniev Student for life

    Jun 10, 2013
    I just got the 6S. Your photos encourage me to use the phone more often!
    It's pretty amazing what can be achieved!
     
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  18. dalethorn

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    I didn't look for the usual tear-down, but one thing they did was go from 8 to 12 mp. Other things like the noise processing and color are about the same. Now when you view a typical 6sp image at 100 percent compared to a LX100 (or other 12 mp premium camera) image at 100 percent, I think you'll see with the camera image what looks like a lot of interpolation.
     
  19. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    Published specs for iPhone6S camera:
    New 12-megapixel iSight camera with 1.22µ pixels
    Live Photos (not on the iPhone 6)
    Autofocus with Focus Pixels
    Optical image stabilisation (iPhone 6s Plus only)
    True Tone flash
    Panorama (up to 63 megapixels) (43Mp on the iphone 6)
    Auto HDR for photos
    Exposure control
    Burst mode
    Timer mode
    ƒ/2.2 aperture
    Five-element lens
    Hybrid IR filter
    Backside illumination sensor
    Sapphire crystal lens cover
    Auto image stabilisation
    Improved local tone mapping (not on iPhone 6)
    Improved noise reduction (not on iPhone 6)
    Face detection
    Photo geotagging

    I imagine that "Tap to focus" would be on the 6S as well, its actually stated on the specs for the 6, but not for the 6S.
     
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  20. dalethorn

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    The tap to focus works very well, but a little clumsy sometimes unless you have a good grip with the other hand. I like it much better braced for stability, yet it stabilizes very well. The HDR rarely does anything worthwhile for me. My favorite thing along that line is in the LX100 with the highlight/shadow menu setting. The lens is fantastic, but I have to say that the 12 mp really do look interpolated - in most cases I'd say there are 3-4 good megapixels. But given the camera is just one feature of a total data and communication device, it's really incredible.