New Sony images leaked -- all sides. RX10 has 2.8 CONSTANT aperture???

Discussion in 'Sony RX100 Forum' started by wt21, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    See http://www.cameraegg.org/sony-rx10-a7-a7r-price-and-full-images/

    The RX10 seems to show a 2.8 constant aperture? Oh my! But it's also $1300!! I think maybe I'll be fine with my RX100, lol.

    The front of the a7 to me is pretty ugly, but the rest of the angles look good, and you know it'll be highly functional.

    For me, they are interesting, but out of my price range for now. Still, it'll fun to read up on them, once released.
     
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  2. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    The constant f/2.8 lens is consistent with what I have heard so far. I note that it doesn't look like there is an Olympus VF-4 spec EVF behind that rather small looking viewfinder glass. I was interested to see what else Sony might do with their 1" sensor, but this went in the direction of the type of camera that I was imagining (larger, more controls, better lens) and then bulldozed right over that and just kept going.

    One other concern: is that a dedicated exposure compensation dial rather than a second multi-function dial? And an aperture ring around the lens? Tsk, tsk.
     
  3. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    Big 62mm dia Zeiss lens is bigger then Pana 12-35 f/2.8, nearly same size as Oly 12-40mm f/2.8... I guess they needed for the reach...

    More interesting is the A7 photos... It has same ctrls as RX1 which I like esp for one hand operation...
     
  4. hoodlum

    hoodlum New to SC

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    Aug 1, 2012
    Outer ring is for manual focus. Aperture ring instead of a manual zoom? Who made that decision? Power zoom will be slow and noisy with those large lens elements.
     
  5. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    Why do you say the outer ring is for MF? It could be for zoom. No MF.

    edit -- though you can see there is a rocker around the shutter button (rocker is forward, on/off is behind).
     
  6. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    More:
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  7. retow

    retow SC All-Pro

    Jul 24, 2010
    Pricing for the A7 seems to be quite competitive, I guess it will make some competitors scratching their heads. 36MP with the A7r without IBIS will be unforgiving as far as camera shake is concerned. I`m wondering whether the 24MP of the A7 will be the sweet spot, especially also when considering how outstanding this sensor is in the RX1.
     
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  8. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    7r goes to 25,600 ISO, 7 goes to 51,200
    2.5 fps on 7 and 1.5fps on 7r (5fps and 4fps without AF)/
    7 has 117 phase pts and 25 contrast points, 7r only the 25 contrast pts
     
  9. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    From B&H on the screen and EVF:
    Sounds fairly decent to me. Not as good as a VF-4 but still decent by comparison with many.
     
  10. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    OMG This camera is so awesome, it handles fantastically and the IQ is out of this world. I've pre-ordered it at Amazon, B&H and Adorama
     
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  11. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    OMG This camera is absolute crap, it handles badly and the IQ is mediocre. No-one in their right mind would buy this camera.
     
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  12. retow

    retow SC All-Pro

    Jul 24, 2010
    I fully agree with you and hope I can help reducing the out of stock and back ordering issues for retailers and have one available for me in case I decide to buy..... :redface:
     
  13. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    I have to say I like the RX10. In many ways, it could be the ideal travel camera - as long as one doesn't require pocketability. But pricing could be an issue. Intellectually, I understand it, given the price of the RX100 and RX100 II and adding that fast and expensive Zeiss zoom lens and a built-in EVF. But what can one get for about the same price? A Pentax K-3 body. And Oly E-M1 body or an E-M5 body and a good lens. But I do think the RX10 is pretty nice.
     
  14. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Steve, you can get a used K-5 with the WR 18-135 and it would not be much bigger and the images would obliterate the RX10. And you'd have a few hundred bucks leftover.
     
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  15. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Exactly. I have the K-5 and I have the 18-135. As cool as I might think the RX10 is, it gives me nothing that I don't already have - and maybe not as much. If someone insists on buying new, they could get a leftover K-30, or maybe even a K-50, with the 18-135.
     
  16. demiro

    demiro Serious Compacts For Life

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    Dec 15, 2011
    The RX10 presumably gives you better video specs, if that matters. But I totally agree with you and Luke. Plus with the K-5 you have the obvious option of using other lenses for more versatility. Hard for me to make the RX10 work.
     
  17. bwidjaja

    bwidjaja New to SC

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    Sep 14, 2013
    Here is a thought. As a potential Nikon 5200 + 2 zoom combo buyer, the spec looks impressive and no need to change lens. Nikon 5200 combo would cost $1050 new vs. RX10 $1300. It is still expensive, but from the casual DSLR user, the image quality may actually better compared to APSC + consumer zooms. And convenience of not having to change lens. Once the price stabilizes closer to $1K, i think it is an appealing choice.
     
  18. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Aside from the price and (maybe) the size, I know folks who would love this camera. They really want that long zoom, and this should be pretty good IQ for such a beast. Of course, that K5 and 18-135 comment is spot on.
     
  19. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve