NEX Rumor: FF NEX

Discussion in 'News and Rumors' started by wt21, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    This could actually get me into NEX to stay! Though knowing Sony, they'll have only a slow kit zoom and a 24mm lens, and that's all, lol.

    If this is true, and they have a fast 28 and 50 (of course, I know other folks want a 35), then I may finally be forced into NEX. Besides, I'm learning to put up with Sony from the wonderful RX100. I'd even take a 24-70 f/4 zoom.

    (SR5) Sony NEX goes Full Frame!!!! | sonyalpharumors
     
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  2. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    That would really be a game changer if Sony is first to market with a mirrorless FF. Even though we'd need to see lenses, Canon and Nikon will look like dinosaurs pretty quickly.
     
  3. krugorg

    krugorg SC All-Pro

    Sep 26, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Kyle Krug
    That was a pretty dang interesting rumor... the more I read about it, the more it sounds like a full frame NEX body that has a hybrid mount to support both Alpha and E mount lenses (crop mode when an E lens is mounted). So, basically, a more streamlined mount, versus the current NEX-to-Alpha adapter, plus the sensor to actually be able to use full frame, but you still have a big FF DSLR lens on the front?
     
  4. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Kyle, I hear you. But think about like this. Use your current NEX lens for zoom and a compact system, and put on a smallish fast FF prime for when ultimate quality and maximum DOF control is desired...the best of both worlds (kind of).
     
  5. krugorg

    krugorg SC All-Pro

    Sep 26, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Kyle Krug
    Yeah, that makes sense, Luke, and I do still think it sounds interesting. I was just trying to make sense out of what could come to the market sooner rather than later and it seemed like a new FF mount from Sony was not as likely.

    I guess the body would have to be bigger, for the mount and sensor, so maybe handling would work with some of the primes.
     
  6. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    Could this be why the released very few NEX lenses (of any quality, at any rate). And I wonder if that 24mm would work on a FF body?
     
  7. Booka

    Booka SC Regular

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    Jul 5, 2011
    Sweden
    The first really big news before photokina, after the rx100 and now this... Sony looks like they have started banging them out again and have recovered from the floods.

    My biggest interest in this would be with focus peaking and M-lenses since sony hasn't really been spectacular with their lens designs.

    My guess would be that it turns out to be a FF E-mount with an Alpha adapter for existing FF lenses, who knows what other tricks Sony have been able to design.

    The biggest questions is how long this product is on the market before i can afford it/ I get tired of waiting for a Ricoh FF M-mount.
     
  8. krugorg

    krugorg SC All-Pro

    Sep 26, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Kyle Krug
    That would be pretty great. It does seem like the current E lenses struggle a bit on the edges on APS-C, more so even on the higher mpx sensor. Also, the Sigma E lenses seem to perform as well as the Sony glass going into the corners/edges, and Sigma has explicitly stated that these are not designed to cover a FF sensor.

    This would have to be a huge hit, right? ... so much awesome M-lenses already out there, compact, and people seem to be doing well with focus peaking.
     
  9. stanleyk

    stanleyk SC Top Veteran

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    May 23, 2011
    Taylor, Texas
    Great idea if they make the right lenses. Right now the NEX 7 is an moderately expensive body with a very bad selection of lenses. I used one with the 24mm one time. I thought the Fuji X100 was just a much better camera especially in terms of IQ. The 24mm is really overpriced at $1,000+ for what it delivers. It's nowhere near as good as the Nikon 35mm F1.4. Sony does have some good FF lenses but they would be awfully big on NEX size body. Maybe it's going be larger? I think the lens a lot of FF users want it is a 24-70 F2.8. I have a Nikon one and it's very big and heavy. I sold my Nikon FF body earlier this year. I'm keeping some of the lenses for a while to see if I can get a D800 at some point. For some reason Sony just doesn't seem to get the lens part of cameras. The NEX is a pretty great camera with a horrible selection of lenses. I guess you can adapt lenses but then you lose the auto focus.
     
  10. krugorg

    krugorg SC All-Pro

    Sep 26, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Kyle Krug
    The one native/AF prime that always seems to be fairly small for FF is the 50mm. Something like the size of the Nikon 50/1.8 G would work pretty well on a X-Pro1 sized body, I would think? But... then yeah, if you look at the wide angles or long primes, they start getting pretty large.

    As far as existing NEX APS-C lenses, I do like the Sigma 19mm for a wide angle and then the 50/1.8 looks pretty good as well.
     
  11. KianO

    KianO SC Top Veteran

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    Jun 27, 2012
    Geneva
    If this confirme to be true it'll be a major photographic event, let the fray begin...
     
  12. Pelao

    Pelao SC All-Pro

    Jul 11, 2010
    Ontario, Canada
    Stephen
    Could be nice. It all depends of course on the implementation. If the lenses aren't good enough, or there aren't enough of them, it will weaken the offering in terms of reaching a broad audience.

    If it comes true, I look forward to seeing what they deliver.
     
  13. lenshoarder

    lenshoarder SC Veteran

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    Mar 7, 2012
    I think that lenses are besides the point. As long as people can use legacy glass with it, then people will scoop it up. FF has never been about a broad audience. As long as the price isn't too ridiculous, it'll do well.
     
  14. Pelao

    Pelao SC All-Pro

    Jul 11, 2010
    Ontario, Canada
    Stephen
    We'll have to agree to disagree about whether or not FF is for a broad audience. The 5D and following cameras from Nikon and Sony made larger sensor cameras, and a good range of lenses, available to a much broader audience. Sony would surely be targeting a chunk of those people, hoping to attract them with the perceived advantages of FF in a small, lightweight body. Users of legacy glass are a significant subset, with likely a piece of crossover. But if users of legacy glass are the primary market for this, then it is an unusual move for Sony, because it's not a large-scale market, and offers less opportunity to sell lenses, where margins and brand loyalty are built.
     
  15. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Formula for a system camera:

    1) Design camera
    2) Design lenses for said camera
    3) Release both at the same time
    4) Repeat steps 1) & 2)

    It's very hard to imagine a camera being genuinely successful whilst ignoring steps 2) through 4). I wish that I was that easily pleased. For me it's native lenses or bust. I thought adapting was fun a year or two back when it was with an E-P1 worth a couple of hundred bucks.
     
  16. Andrewteee

    Andrewteee SC All-Pro

    Jul 8, 2010
    I heard that it would be a medium format sensor with 48 MPs. And they are also rumored to release a 80/1.2 too. All in a body just slightly larger than the size of the RX100. Sweet, we'll take better pictures now.
     
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  17. Pelao

    Pelao SC All-Pro

    Jul 11, 2010
    Ontario, Canada
    Stephen
    Only 48? It'll never sell :rolleyes:
     
  18. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    right....there are cell phones with that money MP.
     
  19. KianO

    KianO SC Top Veteran

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    Jun 27, 2012
    Geneva
    If all this true and that there is a couple of good lenses that comme out, they be in the same Nice lightweight magn├ęsium allow than those of the aps-c lineup :)