Olympus E-M5 II

Discussion in 'Micro Four Thirds Forum' started by bartjeej, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    http://www.dpreview.com/previews/olympus-om-d-e-m5-ii

    Looks verrry pretty, sounds like a decent improvement. The 40MP mode is absolutely useless for handheld photography but seeing it blow away the Nikon D810 in terms of moire is pretty cool!

    That EE-1 dot sight they mention, which can be used on any camera, sounds like a really cool thing to have for wildlife photography - I wonder what it looks like! If it's small and / or collapsible, I might just get one at some point!
     
  2. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    I have just had a look at the E-M5 II on DP Review and it does look really good. The new EVF and screen plus dial and button layout look good. It's a sexier camera for sure!

    I have downloaded and compared the std and 40Mp images to see if there were any difference. The std image is 4608 pixels on the longest edge where the 40Mp image is 7296 pixels on the longest edge. There seems to be more detail in the larger but if you reduce the 40Mp image down to the same 4608 pixels of the 16Mp image there seems to be very little detail difference, there is some but not much...to me anyway! When reduced down to 2048 pixels on the longest edge (my end result for posting on the web) there is no difference that I can see! I guess once out in the real world I will notice the difference more and it is a cool feature to have.

    I do like the comparison between the 5II and the D810, Very cool!!!! The way the sensor shift works is very clever and will make for superb landscape, scenery, macro, product images. If you can get the model to stay completely still for 1 second then portrait work should be on the list too!

    As long as they have not taken away any other features then this will be a very decent replacement for the Mk1 but would it be better than the E-M1??? If you don't do sports then I guess the smaller, lighter E-M5II would be a better choice.

    Only having to purchase the HLD-8 grip is good too!!
     
  3. Richard

    Richard SC Top Veteran

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    Feb 1, 2013
    Marlow, UK
    I love the look of the camera. It's a closer visual approximation to the classic OM film cameras than the last model and that's a very good thing in my book. I never liked the bulky 'hump' of the original EM-5 and I see they've done a neater job this time. I'm sure the controls would suit me very nicely too.

    The problem for me is the sensor. I far prefer a 3:2 aspect ratio for most images, which means if I bought an E-M5 I'd be forever cropping away the top and bottom of the image and wasting those valuable pixels.

    -R
     
  4. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    The E-M5 Mark II really is a very nice upgrade but I really don't think I'll be bothering to buy one. For one thing, the high-resolution mode is pretty much only for tripod work. There are other improvements as well but I just don't feel the urge to replace my original E-M5 with the Mark II. Maybe an E-M1 on closeout.
     
  5. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    And even then you're not getting a true 3:2 aspect ratio. If you compare a 3:2 and a 4:3 file shot of the same scene, the 3:2 will be wider and not as tall - the 4:3 narrower and taller. If you just crop a 4:3 down to a 3:2, you still have that narrower 4:3 width with the tops and bottoms chopped off. Aspect ratio is a big thing to me - I really prefer 3:2 for most of what I shoot. I just see better with that frame, the exception being portraits or extreme telephoto sports or wildlife shooting, where I'm just as happy with 4:3.

    That said, I like a LOT of what m43 brings to the table, aspect ratio aside, and have sometimes thought about augmenting my Nikon gear with another m43 body with 2-3 longer lenses, probably the 75 and something like the 75-300 for more extreme reach than I can get with my Nikon (at least in a lens I'd ever be willing to hold). But I really prefer the flip-up screen to a fully articulated screen, so the EM5 II wouldn't be on my radar for this reason alone. I'd probably just go with a used or refurb EM1 or EM10. But it probably won't happen. I"m really digging the simplicity of having one system camera body to choose from. There's nothing in full frame I like as much as I liked the Olympus 75 with the Olympus face detection, but I do OK with a 120 or 135 on the Nikon...

    -Ray
     
  6. bluzcity

    bluzcity SC Veteran

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    Jul 30, 2013
    Memphis, TN
    Brent
    If I could afford it I would probably buy one. I love the articulating screen, tactile features on the knobs and such. I would probably use the 40 mp feature on landscapes which is only about once a year. Love the looks, sexy..
     
  7. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    i didn't bother to read about the features for a camera I'm not going to buy. But how do they get 40MP out of a 16MP sensor? Surely an upres in software is as good (or better) than one done in camera.....right?

    And I'd get the silver....with a silver 75mm lens.:wink:
     
  8. marlof

    marlof Trying to focus

    Dec 25, 2010
    The Netherlands
    Marlof
    They're sort of combining 8 shots to one, by shifting the sensor 8 times during a second. Which explains the tripod need. It's not software upres.
     
  9. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    So it's basically using the IBIS system PRO-actively rather than only RE-actively. Pretty cool idea. Can't imagine I'd use it much at all since I almost never carry or use a tripod, but a cool trick and probably really useful for some folks...

    -Ray
     
  10. Djarum

    Djarum SC All-Pro

    Jul 10, 2010
    Huntsville, AL
    Jason
  11. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    aaaaah, I see. I'll stitch my own stinking panos, Oly. But thanks for the offer.
     
  12. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    Nice camera, but no tripod for me also. So at least 5 stop IBIS is good:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uQKYgQaNHQ

    imaging-resource - Resolution Wars: Can a 16mp Four Thirds camera out-resolve a 36mp full frame?
    nikon-em5II.
     
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  13. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    But then making a pano with the same composition and with the same amount of detail would require having about twice as long a lens.
     
  14. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    E-M5 II 40Mp image = No moire Whoop!!!!!
     
  15. wolfie

    wolfie SC Veteran

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    Sep 19, 2010
    The best thing about the MkII

    ... is that is has driven the Mk1 price down so much that today I got a brand new E-M5 Mk1 with a 12-40 Pro zoom for only $100 more than price of the zoom alone! :eek:

    I am very happy as I have wanted a WR outfit for a couple of years and finally have got it. Now it doesn't matter if the weather is raining or shining!

    I'm sure the MkII will make a nice upgrade when the MkIII comes out ...
     
  16. zensu

    zensu SC Rookie

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    Jul 20, 2012
    Montgomery, AL
    Bobby
    Olympus executive said they will have hand holdable sensor shift technology soon so I'll wait until the E-M1 II comes out next year.
     
  17. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    We had Olympus in store the other day and the guy did a 40Mp portrait hand held and it looked amazing!!!! So it can be done!
     
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  18. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 SC Top Veteran

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    Feb 6, 2015
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    I think that when new tech like this comes out, they always play it a bit conservative at first to keep the expectations from being unreasonably high.