On1 RAW and Sigma.

Discussion in 'Sigma DP Forum' started by bilzmale, Apr 27, 2016.

  1. bilzmale

    bilzmale Super Moderator Emeritus

    Jul 17, 2010
    Perth, Western Australia
    Bill Shinnick
    The new planned release in Fall of On1RAW lists that it will process Sigma raw files.

    Could be a game changer if it does fully support X3F files.
     
  2. Chris2500dk

    Chris2500dk SC Top Veteran

    598
    Dec 22, 2011
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Yes that could be interesting. Always nice with options.
     
  3. bilzmale

    bilzmale Super Moderator Emeritus

    Jul 17, 2010
    Perth, Western Australia
    Bill Shinnick
    Have had an email conversation with James at ON1 Support and he can not guarantee that all listed cameras will be supported - too early in the development stage he says. :hmmm:
     
  4. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    That's misleading at best...
     
  5. bilzmale

    bilzmale Super Moderator Emeritus

    Jul 17, 2010
    Perth, Western Australia
    Bill Shinnick
    I suspect the 'supported' lists was done by someone in the PR dept, not the software boffins.
     
  6. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    I wouldn't disagree. You can imagine the conversation:

    "Now, spotty intern, put down your smartphone for a moment and come here. I want you to a search on Google. Current digital camera plus raw - that should come up with loads of names..."
     
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  7. Alan7140

    Alan7140 New to SC

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    Dec 31, 2013
    I refuse to ever sit through another of Koslowski's rambling, unscripted, time-wasting self-promotional videos. I cannot for the life of me understand why he assumes that people can no longer (or are too stupid to) read text. Text doesn't have an American accent, for one thing, and you can also re-read parts of text without having to shuffle through a gratingly annoying video.

    The last couple of On1 upgrades have been expensive and contain ever more "features" (such as those interminable training videos) that are rarely going to be of use to anyone, the updates mainly concerned fixing bugs and slow, erratic behaviour and fiddling with the GUI.

    Pre-ordering this vague package is simply gambling, and it's pure guesswork as to how well it will tackle - if at all - both Sigma Merrill and Quattro and Fuji X-Trans files.

    Adobe still hasn't supported the later Sigma cameras and still hasn't bothered to properly correct their flawed X-Trans processing, so I wouldn't hold my breath for a self-absorbed company like On1 to do any better.

    As for purchase - the fact that you "own On1 10 outright" but have to be a "member of On1 Pro" to do so with an annual subscription of $149 differs from actually being subscribed software in ways I simply do not understand. It seems you pay for the software and then subscribe to keep it working.

    This company is rapidly taking on a mantle of being sneaky, and I stopped buying at V8.

    The On1 RAW announcement page looks like something a '60's hippie would come up with during a bad trip and tells you almost nothing, with weird, out-of-focus text floating around in typically colour-pumped On1 over-processed landscape photos, and as I said originally, I refuse to sit through another of those promotional videos to see this alleged software in action where a simple PDF would suffice.
     
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  8. ivoire

    ivoire SC All-Pro

    Dec 3, 2011
    chicago burbs
    mike
    ON1 Photo10 has raw support for X3F files. I loaded the trial version and I'm unimpressed with its processing power. It takes a while for the copy to be created for editing and (the edit process is faster than Sigma Photo Pro) the results were not pleasing (images all had a green cast to them). Perhaps ON1 Raw will offer better performance. The Sigma software is free, does a good job and using batch processing makes it a better alternative.
     
  9. bilzmale

    bilzmale Super Moderator Emeritus

    Jul 17, 2010
    Perth, Western Australia
    Bill Shinnick
    Yes, I've noticed this with ON1 Mike but I suspect it is opening the embedded jpg.
     
  10. ivoire

    ivoire SC All-Pro

    Dec 3, 2011
    chicago burbs
    mike
    I was thinking the same. The ON1 site states that Photo 10 will handle X3F files so I thought I'd give it a try