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Pentax Q10 or Pentax MX-1 - $199 ea at Woot!

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  1. Bigolac

    Bigolac SC Regular

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  2. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    If that was a Q7 body, I'd say that's the one to get. But it's not. I say go for the MX-1 if you're at all interested.
     
  3. john m flores

    john m flores SC All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2012
    Exactly.
     
  4. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I thought about a Q for kicks, but I just got the MX-1 a couple weeks ago and have barely busted it out yet. But I'm keeping the MX-1 and this guy doesn't like small sensor cams if that helps anyone make up their mind.
     
  5. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Black or silver and black?
     
  6. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    silver and black.....only because that was the cheaper one when I was buying. If I had known they would be $199, I wouldn't have paid $225.
     
  7. Tilman Paulin

    Tilman Paulin SC Top Veteran

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    Nov 15, 2011
    Dublin, Ireland
    Ha, I paid 255$ :) I'm not fussed about it though, got some really nice shots from it by now...

    At 199$ it has to be the best bang for the buck if you're interested in a quality compact with really good macro abilities.
     
  8. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Ha....I just did a bunch of goofy macros of my dog and my wife and she had fun sticking the camera in my face, too. The macro function sold me on the camera.
     
  9. lenshoarder

    lenshoarder SC Veteran

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    Mar 7, 2012
    I think it's remarkable how the RX100 has succeeded in pushing all the former $500-$600 premium compacts down to sub $200. Yet nothing has risen up to challenge it.

    You can get the Q10 for $199 at Target as well. Much better return policy and cheaper if you have a red card.
     
  10. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    You're absolutely right. These smaller-sensored enthusiast compacts really are having a hard time holding their prices. That's why I expect we'll see one-inch sensors or better in many of these cameras before long. If Sony won't sell them those sensors, camera makers will have to either source them from somewhere else (Truesense? Fuji? Toshiba? Samsung? Panasonic?) or perhaps do them one better. A micro four-thirds, fixed lens, enthusiast compact anyone? It would seem to me that many companies could produce such a fixed-lens camera like this without jumping into micro four-thirds completely. Sony already sells micro four-thirds sensors to both Olympus and even Panasonic. Or perhaps Panasonic could sell a sensor that wasn't their very latest but still very good. Would you buy an enthusiast compact with the sensor from the Panasonic G5/G6?
     
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  11. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    I already have a Q, but I'll get a Q7 at some point,.
     
  12. lenshoarder

    lenshoarder SC Veteran

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    Mar 7, 2012
    I don't think Sony would have any problems selling anyone their sensors. They've shown this time and time again all across it's product range. They've sold APS-C sensors to their competitors as well as small P&S sensors. Their sensor sales tend to be brand agnostic. There is another 1" sensor maker, Aptina. They make the 1" sensor for the Nikon 1s. Since Aptina and Sony share each others patents, there's no reason that Aptina couldn't clone the RX100 sensor. So I don't think it's a sensor shortage that's holding the other companies up. Either it's still disbelief that Sony has had such a large impact on the market or it's actually harder than sourcing a sensor to build a camera that small with such a large sensor.

    Back to the MX-1. I've been browsing the studio shots on DPR and IR. The MX-1 looks really good. Kind of like a lower resolution RX100 up to about ISO 1600.
     
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  13. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    I forgot about Aptina. Good point. Your remarks about the MX-1 make me regret (at least to some extent) selling my copy. A really nice camera. But I had too many.
     
  14. Tilman Paulin

    Tilman Paulin SC Top Veteran

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    Dublin, Ireland
    for me the MX-1 is a really nice "take everywhere" camera. Not so much because of the size (it's not tiny) but because of it's versatility and quality.

    I like shooting macros. It's fantastic for that.
    It has an excellent lens and a useful zoom-range (and the lens is pretty good throughout that range).
    The sensor and image processing are surprisingly good for such a "tiny sensor". (When I post-process these, I use the jpegs a lot, rather than RAW)

    And... at these prices I actually feel comfortable enough to take it everywhere. Throw it in a bag. Put in in the pocket. Take a photo when you see something. Or don't :smile:

    small MX-1 set on flickr:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tilman_paulin/sets/72157639357072364/
     
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  15. lenshoarder

    lenshoarder SC Veteran

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    Mar 7, 2012
    That's the way I treat my RX100. At first I was babying it because it's so expensive. Then I concluded what was the point of having it if I don't use it the way it was intended. Now I'm not gentle at all with it. The paint has worn off in spots but it still works like a champ.
     
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  16. Tilman Paulin

    Tilman Paulin SC Top Veteran

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    Nov 15, 2011
    Dublin, Ireland
    two reasons why I decided against the RX100:
    -macro isn't quite as good on the RX100 due to the bigger sensor
    -I'm not using this kind of camera enough to justify spending ~600$ (my EM-5 is my main camera)

    But I agree that the RX100 is more convenient to take everywhere thanks to it's smaller size. Which reminds me of a third reason why I didn't go for it, it's small size (didn't like the handling). :)

    All personal decisions. Stuff like that is different for everyone :smile:
     
  17. john m flores

    john m flores SC All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2012
     
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  18. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    That's pretty much what I'm thinking. I'm not asking for the moon, but perhaps a 24-70mm zoom that starts at f/1.8 and goes to f/2.8? Is that asking for too much in a camera about the size of the Ricoh GR (I'll allow for some lens protrusion if a zoom is used) with a micro four-thirds sensor? We can look at the Panasonic GM1 for some guidance. The body can be a bit larger than the GM1 in order to accomodate some external controls (mode dial, control ring, etc.). While I'd really like an built-in EVF, that might be asking for too much. But a high-resolution rear LCD employing "White Magic" technology would help.

    Sorry, I don't mean to hijack this thread. But the Woot sale is over anyway. :smile:
     
  19. john m flores

    john m flores SC All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2012
    I'd imagine that if Sony can't put a zoom that's fast on both ends with the RX100, there's less a chance of that happening with a bigger M43 sensor.

    After time with the Nikon 1 V1, I really think that the 1" sensor is the Goldilocks of sensor sizes, big enough for low light, small enough for small zooms.
     
  20. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Steve..... you're asking for the moon.

    Just look at the Panasonic 12-35mm lens......and that is an f2.8 constant aperture......faster equals bigger.....even if you can shave some size down by eliminating the mount.
     
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