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Really like this photo (not mine).

Discussion in 'Leica M Forum' started by TraamisVOS, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. TraamisVOS

    TraamisVOS SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 29, 2010
    Melboune, Australia
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ottoschulzephotographers/5161037045/in/pool-1219628@N20/lightbox/

    I came across this photo from photographer Otto Schulze by chance and was instantly drawn to it. I've left the Flikr image open on one of my tabs in my browser for days and would come back and take another look at it from time to time. There are so many things I like about it:

    - The first thing that really made me look over and over again is the crystal clear focus on the couple and the gentle shallow depth of field of the background. It has that amazing 3D look to it.

    - I really like the two big overblown lights on either side of the photo, one of which is just outside the right frame, the way the lights invaluably add to the crispness of the image. The backs of the couple are backlit by the lights on either side of them and yet their shadowed sides are also lit just right, almost like they're glowing actually. Looking at it again, the scene looks like it was lit by an experienced ACS cinematographer for a scene in a film.

    - I like the high contrast black and white, although I'd like to see what it looks like in colour too.

    - I like the grain, perfect amount of grain as far as I'm concerned.

    - I like the way the walls in the far background are lit by the lights on the wall, producing a soft textured background for the photo.

    - I like that there is a sea of people visible just in the dark background, further focusing the attention on the couple.

    - I like the girl on the floor in the foreground, simply excellent in this context.

    - I like that the couple is completely oblivious to the crowd in the background and the girl in the foreground.

    - I like the couple's pose, the photographer captured the grace in that specific 'moment'. Not a foot, hand, hip or knee out of place.

    There are only three tiny things to critique - (i) the bride's hair could've been back a bit to reveal her face, which would've been lit up by the light in front of her, and (ii) that guy in the white shirt in the background behind the groom. Sit down, dammit! Or sink back further into the background, and (iii) that huge open doorway in the background, close those doors!

    Other than that, an excellent photo otherwise.

    It doesn't even bother me that the photo is on a slight angle. The photographer probably intended it that way and it suits the context.
     
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  2. BBW

    BBW Administrator Emeritus

    Jul 7, 2010
    betwixt and between
    BB
    I'm with you, James this is a truly lovely image. The couple in question must love it.

    Just sent you a PM re the photograph - we need to be sure it's OK with the photographer to have it here.
     
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  3. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    It looked so perfect I thought it HAD to be a manipulation, then I looked at his photostream. He's so good I feel like quitting.
     
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  4. christilou

    christilou SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2010
    Sunny Frimley
    It certainly is a beautiful photo :) I've been trawling through a list of New York photographers looking for someone to photograph my daughter's wedding in May. I'm quite enjoying the "task"!
     
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  5. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    great photo indeed... just the couple being so much "in the moment" already makes it an amazing photo which they'll enjoy looking back at forever, and the rest only makes it better...
     
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  6. Grant

    Grant SC Veteran

    249
    Nov 12, 2010
    Lunenburg Nova Scotia
    James I am with you as it is a beautiful image. Unlike you I like the idea of the open door but wished the photographer had moved a tad to the right and this would have place the couple smack in the middle of the door and create a wonderful halo effect that would make them stand out more from the background. For me the woman's hair draped over her face seems to make the image more mystical. I do agree with you about the man's white shirt but that is what dodging is for.
     
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  7. TraamisVOS

    TraamisVOS SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 29, 2010
    Melboune, Australia
    christilou - a NY wedding! Post photos if you can, I'm sure the wedding will be beautiful. Will you be restraining yourself from taking too many photos yourself? I know I wouldn't be able to help taking tons of photos.

    Grant - I didn't see it that way but I like what you're saying about both the placement of the door, that would look really good. I like your interpretation of her hair too, the way it is now is not bad at all.

    But the man in the background, I guess it would've helped if his shirt was black yeah, but his position and placement is a slight distraction and very slightly takes away the magic of the 'perfect' moment I think, only very very slightly.
     
  8. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

    Jul 15, 2010
    SoCal
    Bob
    the only change for me would be the guy in the white shirt
     
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  9. Grant

    Grant SC Veteran

    249
    Nov 12, 2010
    Lunenburg Nova Scotia
    LUKE … :rolleyes:

    There are a now two sets of twins that are distracting.
     
  10. stillshunter

    stillshunter Super Moderator Emeritus

    Nov 5, 2010
    Down Under
    Mark
    How about your avatar Luke?...just clapping to the tunes...

    Umm...then again, I still don't think we have the photog's permission to show his print....let alone manipulate it!

    Careful folks, he's an American and foreigners like me might say its a litigation playground....the US have good darn lawyers who get paid darn good money and specialise in taking you to the cleaners! We may even have a few folks of that ilk on here.... so my apologies in advance if I've offended your trade - but also please note that I was deliberately non-complicit in this illegal activity :blush:

    Tread carefully and lightly...is my motto!!
     
  11. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I removed my Photoshop play just to be safe.
     
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  12. TraamisVOS

    TraamisVOS SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 29, 2010
    Melboune, Australia
    lol that is actually a good cover up, I didn't notice how Luke did it until you mentioned it.

    I asked for his permission on Flikr, he's said it's ok as long as I link his name back to his actual photography website.

    Luke - I don't think we have permission to manipulate the image though.
     
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  13. stillshunter

    stillshunter Super Moderator Emeritus

    Nov 5, 2010
    Down Under
    Mark
    Thanks James. Good to know we have permission to look at this image. A great find! And I'm sure if I had his Leica M9 then I could shoot just like that too! :blush:

    Mate I don't mean to be a killjoy, but it's purely out of keeping folk's hides intact. I'm just really aware (or is that "paranoid") of the fact that as innocent as we might be playing in this little bubble there are some who would swoop on this infringement and take more than their pound of flesh in the upwind. I'm especially mindful of us naive and backward Aussies...:wink:...honestly it's not a slight on the US, just that our culture is far more relaxed and so we just have to be aware that while we play in the big world of the internets we're under bigger laws than our own.
     
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  14. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    That's exactly how I took it....no worries, mate:wink: (did I get that right?)
     
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  15. stillshunter

    stillshunter Super Moderator Emeritus

    Nov 5, 2010
    Down Under
    Mark
    You did mate, though it's pretty simple really you just have to relax into it....it's our way!
     
  16. ottoschulze

    ottoschulze New to SC

    2
    Jan 14, 2012
    Most def NOBODY has any right whatsoever to manipulate and then display my images in public!or in private for that matter.dumbfounded by how you thought at any point it was ok to do this. You have got to be kidding me Luke!
     
  17. stillshunter

    stillshunter Super Moderator Emeritus

    Nov 5, 2010
    Down Under
    Mark
    Otto, PM sent.
    Luke, PM sent.
    There will be modifications done to this thread shortly!
     
  18. ottoschulze

    ottoschulze New to SC

    2
    Jan 14, 2012
    just remove my image from this thread now. i no longer give my permission for it to be used. not happy!
     
  19. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Jul 3, 2010
    Done.
     
  20. stillshunter

    stillshunter Super Moderator Emeritus

    Nov 5, 2010
    Down Under
    Mark
    As the artist that is your prerogative, and fully understood.

    It will be removed Otto. But I would like to maintain this thread - devoid of the image and with your express permission - as a reminder to folks on the gravity of copyright vs. artistic licence.

    Meanwhile, I'm sorry that your first dealings with Serious Compacts was an unpleasant one.