Rumored Olympus XZ-10

Discussion in 'Olympus Forum' started by wolfie, Jan 17, 2013.

  1. wolfie

    wolfie SC Veteran

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    Someone dreaming of a Olympus competitor to Fuji X-20 and Sony RX100 ... however if it did appear it could very nice package and could challenge the E-PM2 if the lens was still fast enough.

    XZ-10 compact luxury model from Olympus? | 43 Rumors

    We shall see ...:cool:
     
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  2. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    Didn't XZ2 just get released not too long ago? With XZ2 priced at $100 more than EPM2 body only, will the XZ10 be more expensive than the EPL5? Yikes!
     
  3. demiro

    demiro Serious Compacts For Life

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    If Olympus can combine the XZ lens and design with a larger sensor (1" Sony or Canon GX1 size or m4/3s) it will have a serious camera. Basically an X100 mated with an X10. Trade off a little sensor size for 4X zoom range and fast lens. I'd buy that camera for E-M5 MSRP without hesitation.

    If the XZ-10 is just an upgrade to the 2 with same small sensor then I am not interested.
     
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  4. Djarum

    Djarum SC All-Pro

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    Jason
    I honestly don't know why there isn't a fixed lens mFT camera out.
     
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  5. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
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    they should have done that a LONG time ago if you ask me. Maybe Fuji would have never taken off with the X100. I don't see how it would cannibalize sales of their precious ILCs.
     
  6. Andrewteee

    Andrewteee SC All-Pro

    Jul 8, 2010
    I wonder, too, why they have not done this. A fixed-lens compact camera would be ideal. I no longer own any M43s cameras, but I might buy a fixed-lens M43 camera. It depends on many factors, but the idea of it is interesting. Olympus is a great lens maker and if they could pair a wonderful 35 or 50mm equivalent f2 lens to a next generation M43 sensor in a compact package I'd say yes!
     
  7. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
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    Olympus, bring back the Trip 35. I'll buy one.
     
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  8. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
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    A fixed 17/1.4 lens on a EPM2 sized camera w/ built in EVF.

    Sign me up for that!!
     
  9. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
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    Luke
    asking for 1.4 might be pushing it, but we can dream, right?
     
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  10. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

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    If I'm going to dream, I might as well dream 17/.95! While keeping it a pancake sized lens!!
     
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  11. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    Oly m43 fixed lens, reasonably bright, maybe 3X zoom. Maybe Oly just doesn't have the quality engineers that a Fuji has.
     
  12. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
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    Sue
    I could go along with that, and, in addition, they ought to include their wonderful VF2 quality EVF, built in to the camera.
     
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  13. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    I think that the concept of a fixed lens camera works best with a zoom because there is more space saving potential compared to a prime. For instance, compare the Canon G1X to any Micro 4/3 camera with a zom lens. The only m4/3 lens that comes close to matching the depth of the Canon is the Panasonic collapsible 14-42mm X zoom, but that lens has proven to be quite problematic. The older Panasonic 14-45mm comes closest to the Canon for sharpness but isn't a 4x zoom and isn't as bright at the wide end (f/3.5 vs f/2.8). The Canon does all this with a larger sensor as well.

    The question is, would you prefer the lens to be as compact as possible and slow, or larger and brighter? On the 4/3 sensor, I would be interested in the latter if it was in the region of f/2.8-4. There is also the possibility of using the Sony 1" sensor but I would only see that as a decent option if it had an even faster lens on it, say f/2-2.8 or better.
     
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  14. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

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    A RX100 with a 25-100/1.8-2.5 would make me happy too! Or even a 24-90/1.4-2.5!
     
  15. demiro

    demiro Serious Compacts For Life

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    Larger and brighter for me, at least up to a certain point. If it is not pocketable then for me there is not much of an advantage to be size of an E-PM2 vs an E-M5, for example. In fact, if this mythical beast ever comes to be I'd want it as my primary camera, so a little larger and better ergo would be a real positive. I'd be cool with something as large as the X-Pro, if you can keep the depth closer to the G1X or an E-M5 + 20/1.7.
     
  16. stanleyk

    stanleyk SC Top Veteran

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    I tend to agree with this on the zoom. I think for a fixed lens compact it would be hard to beat the X100 or the new Sony. I'm just not sure I see the benefit of a MFT fixed lens camera with a 35mm equivalent. What would it offer over the X100 which would have a larger sensor? I guess if the price point was lower that would be an advantage.
     
  17. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    Retrotastic good looks, sharp, fast 35mm lens, and a Big juicy viewfinder and the magic price point of $599.
     
  18. stanleyk

    stanleyk SC Top Veteran

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    I think that would be more like $999. :smile: I think they could do one at that price point. Just add up the cost of the lens, Pen body, and VF2. Of course it wouldn't have the OVF option which is what I use most of the time on the X100. For me, I would pay the extra $299 for the larger sensor but I bet a lot of people would be happy with $999.
     
  19. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    It would likely for similar reasons you might choose, say an E-PL5 or an X-E1. Smaller overall size, image stabilsation, touchscreen, maybe tiltscreen. Just something with a more modern feature set would make it different enough.
     
  20. stanleyk

    stanleyk SC Top Veteran

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    Good point. I think that's really at some level that's the fundamental difference with the Fuji cameras. They are really old fashioned in many ways. I like that about them but I understand why some people don't. I never use the LCD for anything other than the looking at the menu and I rarely ever change anything anyway other than the aperture and ISO. For some reason I don't even look at any pictures I take until I get home. I also use the optical viewfinder more. I think electronic ones are great, I just prefer optical ones. I like the aperture ring on the lens. I guess I'm just a stick in the mud. :smile:

    I do think for some people the sensor size is important. Trust me if I could afford that new Sony I would be all over it. No way that's happening. All that said, I think if Olympus could do something like the X100 at $999 it would be a big seller. I think Fuji sold over 100,000 X100's. I bet a lot of current users upgrade to the newer version.
     
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