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Sony a6000

Discussion in 'Sony E-Mount (incl. NEX, A7, A7R, A3000) Forum' started by olli, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. olli

    olli Super Moderator Emeritus

    Sep 28, 2010
    Metro Manila
    olli
    The Sony a6000, announced today, looks like a good incremental update to the NEX-6. As a NEX-7 user it is good to see that Sony is continuing to develop the APS-C rangefinder style cameras, whatever they choose to call them. Credit also to Sony for keeping the price at least reasonable - $650 body only; $800 with the 16-50 lens. I believe this is $100 less than the NEX-6 when it was first released. The big cost cutting item appears to be the viewfinder which is of a lower resolution than that on the NEX-6 and NEX-7.

    I've read on a number of sites that Sony spokespeople have described this camera as a replacement for both the NEX-6 and the NEX-7. Not so. If that is the case then what they mean is that this is a replacement for the NEX-6 and there will be no replacement for the NEX-7. Which leaves those of us using the NEX-7 in the same place as those Nikon users who have been waiting years for an update to/replacement for the D300. I would like to think that there will, in due course be an 'a7000' as a direct replacement for the NEX-7, but its not something I'm confident will happen.

    I can't help thinking that Nikon and Sony are playing the same game here - dither over replacing your high end APS-C model in the hope that users will instead emigrate to low end 35mm models. The problem is that even low end 35mm models are still significantly more expensive that high-end APS-C models, to say nothing of the additional cost of 35mm format lenses.

    Sony certainly need an E-mount camera - or perhaps even two - to fill the huge gap between the $650 a6000 and the $1700 A7. I know many people will be wishing for a $1300-1400 35mm camera (an A5 perhaps?) but despite the sensor size it would still be a low end camera with all that implies in terms of build quality and features. I'm perhaps in the minority but I would prefer a high end APS-C - an A7000. In an ideal world perhaps Sony would do both.

    While Sony are clearly committed to the APS-C E-mount market for the foreseeable future I'm concerned about how committed they are to the E-mount (as opposed to FE-mount) lens market. But that's for another time.

    There's no way the a6000 would replace my NEX-7, but it would certainly make a very good second body. I'm looking forward to the reviews.
     
  2. My guess, (and it is a pure guess), assuming there is no other higher end NEX planned.

    They want/expect those willing to pay the cost of an NEX-7 to buy the A7.
     
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  3. BlueBill

    BlueBill SC Rookie

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    Jan 11, 2014
    Hurry up and take my money.
     
  4. olli

    olli Super Moderator Emeritus

    Sep 28, 2010
    Metro Manila
    olli
    Definitely a design improvement over the NEX-6. Looks very nice in silver finish.
     
  5. IVN

    IVN SC Veteran

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    Aug 27, 2013
    You are probably right.
     
  6. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    Sony is pricing the nex /Axxxx series very competitively to attract people from low end dslrs and other mirrorless competition. So far it sells good though it lags on lenses. Fuji is catching up w/ m43 on lenses though they are a late comer.

    From SAR:
    http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-...-coming-in-2014-main-focus-on-fe-from-now-on/
     
  7. olli

    olli Super Moderator Emeritus

    Sep 28, 2010
    Metro Manila
    olli
    Interesting. From what I read somewhere - can't remember where - the silver finish was an option for some markets but not others (including the US).

    Edit: Turns out I read it in the Press Release on the official Sony website (though given how inaccurate Sony websites tend to be it's still not certain):

    The Sony α6000 compact interchangeable lens camera will be available in April 2014 in black and silver in a kit with a compact, versatile 16-50mm motorized zoom lens (model SELP1650) for about $800. It will also be offered separately as a body for about $650.

    Edit 2: And you can order the silver one on the Japan website and the UK website, though not on the US website. You can also order it as a kit with the 16-70 lens from Sony UK.
     
  8. jasonvu

    jasonvu SC Regular

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    Dec 26, 2013
    i think if you want silver, you can order it on ebay through a japanese reseller.
     
  9. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    Japanese versions are locked for Japanese menus only for Sony's, maybe HK should be OK.
     
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  10. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
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  11. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    I just don't understand the move to a lower-res EVF. Certainly no Sony engineer made this decision. If it was a marketing decision, it was a misguided one to say the least. It's a clear strike against the A6000 when it is being cross-shopped with other cameras in this class. The Panasonic GX7 is one of them. Maybe the Fuji X-E2 as well. I'd be tempted to pick up a leftover NEX6 instead, if I decided I had to have a Sony.
     
  12. romi.gilles

    romi.gilles SC Veteran

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    Jun 8, 2013
    idk anymore. all over the country.
    romi gilles
    something rico mentioned about possibly why makes sense - and this is how i understood it.. to keep most of the processing power/resources with the AF'ing system/burst mode. it would definitely raise the price had they gone with a better evf or better processing.

    (Sent from another Galaxy via Tapatalk.)
     
  13. jasonvu

    jasonvu SC Regular

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    Dec 26, 2013

    That fast AF is why i will likely pull the trigger. I'm not much of an EVF user anyway. The reviews have been overwhelmingly positive for this camera. At $650 for the body is a very good price.
     
  14. romi.gilles

    romi.gilles SC Veteran

    338
    Jun 8, 2013
    idk anymore. all over the country.
    romi gilles
    let us know how it does tracking objects.

    (Sent from another Galaxy via Tapatalk.)
     
  15. yakky

    yakky SC Regular

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    Nov 30, 2013
    I'm very curious at how it does with moving objects and tracking. I bought the Nex 6 hoping it would be almost as good as my J1 but it is not even close in initial testing. Toddlers playing are tough on cameras.

    I'm very irritated that all the testing websites can't rig something up to do motion testing. I'm convinced they CAN, they just don't want to. A simple target on wheels pulled diagonally would suffice.
     
  16. romi.gilles

    romi.gilles SC Veteran

    338
    Jun 8, 2013
    idk anymore. all over the country.
    romi gilles
    and the a77 successor coming out is said to have even faster AF'ing than the a6000.

    (Sent from another Galaxy via Tapatalk.)
     
  17. romi.gilles

    romi.gilles SC Veteran

    338
    Jun 8, 2013
    idk anymore. all over the country.
    romi gilles
    can't say this isn't a good test, with comparisons to other models, in different scenarios, including in a low light area. and that's still in a tripod. it's nice how its pdaf points are so spread out.

    소니 A6000_제품 시연_AF-C 비교: http://youtu.be/ohX8XZRMp2Y

    (Sent from another Galaxy via Tapatalk.)
     
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  18. yakky

    yakky SC Regular

    57
    Nov 30, 2013
    Thanks for sharing.


    It is no doubt fast but look at those apertures and shutter speeds. Bike rider at 1/200??? F5.6 is hardly taxing on focus. Lastly focusing is clearly trailing the person. Seems non predictive.

    The toddler running diagonally is a great test though, simple, somewhat repeatable.
     
  19. BruPri

    BruPri SC Top Veteran

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    May 11, 2011
    Seattle, Washington USA
    Bruce J. Pritchard
    Traded in my RX10 which is a super piece of kit, for an a6000/50 1.8 This one was taken with an adapted Nikkor-P 105 2.5 I picked up for $89.00

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