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Sony A7 & A7R TCSTV Video

Discussion in 'Sony E-Mount (incl. NEX, A7, A7R, A3000) Forum' started by TCSJordan, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. TCSJordan

    TCSJordan SC Regular

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  2. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    Jordan, good to finally see your face!

    That being said, where do I sign up to preorder???? Do y'all ship to the US?

    I'm stopping all purchase plans on other gear and waiting on these bad boys!! The difficulty now will be which one to get. 7 or 7r?

    Well, almost all purchases.
     
  3. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    First few questions!

    - How does it handle wide angle Leica M mount lenses? Any red corner issues like the NEX?

    - Is the phase detection on the A7 compatible only with the new lenses? Or does it work with Sony A mount lenses as well?

    - For E mount lenses, does the camera just crop the image? Any vignetting?

    Thanks!
     
  4. TCSJordan

    TCSJordan SC Regular

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    Oct 22, 2011
    Here's a few answers:
    - The widest lens I test was a Leica 28mm F2, which was a hair soft in the edges wide open, but fine by F2.8. Similar performance to a Leica M Type 240. I think the sensor is actually curved to improve wide angle performance.

    - I only had the LA-EA3 adaptor available, and there was no AF with A-Mount lenses. You'll need the LA-EA4 adaptor.

    - There is vignetting with NEX glass, as you can see in the video. You can either manually crop, or have the camera do a 1.5X crop for you. With many lenses, you'll get a larger image by manually cropping.
     
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  5. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    It's a cliche, but I'm thinking "game changer". It'd be the 7, not 7R for me - I'd take faster AF and better high ISO over the extra resolution. Maybe the 35mm, Zeiss 24-70 for travel, and some manual focus glass for wide (28 and 24, or maybe 21) and ultra wide (15). I could get down to this for the bulk of non street, the OMD and 75mm for candid portraits, and the Nikon A for street. Conceptually, I'm liking this a lot.

    -Ray
     
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  6. krugorg

    krugorg SC All-Pro

    Sep 26, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Kyle Krug
    Great preview of the A7/R, Jordan, thanks!

    Quick (I hope) question: how did you like that 35mm for landscape stuff? Curious if you could tell how it held up, stopped down, in the corners and at infinity?
     
  7. retow

    retow SC All-Pro

    Jul 24, 2010
    The A7r with its resolution monster 36MP sensor without IBIS will be unforgiving to even the slightest camera shake. From a usability standpoint the A7 could be the sweet spot.
     
  8. Lucille

    Lucille SC Veteran

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    And you know this because why?
     
  9. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    ^ well, with higher resolution you'll see any camera shake more easily (provided you view the image at a size that allows you to discern the full 36mp of resolution). But ofcourse with these cameras you can keep the shutter speeds high in most conditions and still get great image quality thanks to the state of the art FF sensor.

    I'd love to get the a7r with a wide aperture, super-wide angle, compact, weathersealed prime (am I dreaming now? hell yeah!). Combined with the RX10 for tele work and a Ricoh GR for snapshots or street work, I'd be set for life!
     
  10. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    Thanks for the video Jordan!

    36MP is equal to 15.5MP APSC, so I don't think I will see any more shake then what I got from 16MP nex-6... People are using 24MP nex-7 with no problem also...
     
  11. Lucille

    Lucille SC Veteran

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    Aug 20, 2012
    Hepcat City


    I was concerned about camera shake when I bought the Rx1, and found it to be a non issue, so we shall see with the 36mp sensor. I can handhold at some slow shutter speeds and get great results with the Rx1.. I just don't buy the remark 'unforgiveable to the slightest of camera shake', unless this person speaks from experience from using the A7r, or maybe for him its true, as he could be a shaky shooter to begin with for all I know... Or this person could prove to be absolutely correct, but as for now, I don't think I personally will have a issue with camera shake... Then don't forget, some of these lens have stabilization..
     
  12. Gubrz

    Gubrz O.* Gonzo's & Bentley's Dad

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    Jun 5, 2012
    Austin, TX
    Eliot
    im on public JUNK wifi, so cant watch the video... whats the shutter sound like compared to an em5? i read that it was NOT quiet... i think im spoiled by these leaf shutter compacts
     
  13. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    great video as always guys.
     
  14. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    Eliot: the video mentions a pretty loud shutter speed, and from what I heard in the video, it's probably a good bit louder than the Olympus E-M5 too.
     
  15. serhan

    serhan SC All-Pro

    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    1/8000sec shutter on gx7 is also louder then the 1/4000sec E-M5 shutter...
     
  16. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    the shutter is loud, but it sounds cool!
     
  17. Livnius

    Livnius SC Veteran

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    Jun 3, 2012
    Melbourne. Australia
    Joe




    Probably a similar scenario to the RX1/RX1r .....the RX1 being slightly edged out in sharpness but have having slightly better high ISO and DR. In that regard the A7 wins for me....and of course the faster AF.
     
  18. wt21

    wt21 SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 15, 2010
    Great review. Best ive seen yet, and i love your informative videos more so than certain hong kong based jokesters.

    Never thought about the metabones +7 + canon FF glass. Thats pretty crazy!! Will really lower the barrier to trying out this body.
     
  19. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    So true! As a car buff, I tend to compare it to Top Gear vs Fifth Gear. Top Gear is funny, but it's basically useless if you want to learn about cars. It's purely entertainment. Fifth Gear is also entertaining, but there's (often) real substance behind it. But this comparison isn't really applicable anymore, since lately the HK Jokester is obviously bored out of his mind from doing these "reviews", and it shows; the entertainment value has been lost as well.
     
  20. IVN

    IVN SC Veteran

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    Aug 27, 2013
    Sony's A7 and A7r are very interesting cameras. As a Nikon 1 user frustrated with Nikon's hesitation and marketing incompetence regarding mirrorless cameras, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to write a short article on my blog. It goes like this:

     
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