Boid
All-Pro
- Location
- Bangalore, India
- Name
- Rajiv
He didn’t like the lenses. The zooms are to big and the primes not fast enough. The NEX-FF camera will appeal pro photographer but Sony didn’t make the right lenses yet (so he says). He hopes they do it in future.
Editor’s note:
A fast 35mm, 50mm and 85mm (all f/1.4) should have been made for the system right from the start. Instead we will get a 35mm f/2.8, 55mm f/1.8 and likely a 85mm f/1.8 Zeiss lenses.
imo, to have wideranging appeal at an rx1 pricepoint, it must have an integrated vf. certainly opinions can differ, and ive seen great results from the rx1, but i simply do not understand producing a 'pro' tool at 'pro' prices with 'pro' lenses and purposely omitting an essential part of the 'pro' shooting experience.
I love this observation in the SAR column in the 2nd post.....
"5) He didn’t like the lenses. The zooms are to big and the primes not fast enough. The NEX-FF camera will appeal pro photographer but Sony didn’t make the right lenses yet (so he says). He hopes they do it in future."
I think people only need to look at DSLR zooms for APS-C cameras and realize that they will be EVEN BIGGER for a full frame camera. Taking out the mirror and making the camera body smaller doesn't change how big the lenses need to be. I predict the cameras will be amazing imaging machines. And I predict that most people will not like how big they are.
Just one of many reasons I like having a range of sensor sizes available. For long lenses I'll stick with m43. The Fuji 55-200 probably is the "right size", but its bigger than I want to haul around. The Olympus 75-300 with twice the reach is slightly smaller and nearly as good, and a lens with a similar 300mm equivalent reach is gonna be waaaay smaller (the rumored Oly 40-150 - the new f2.8, not the cheap existing one - sounds like it'll be huge, but that's the price you pay for a fast constant aperture). For street work, a 24-28 with APS or m43 seems to be the sweet spot for balancing image quality, low light capability, and enough DOF for zone focus. For a normal-ish 24-60mm set of lenses, full frame shouldn't be too big and I'd sort of consider it a sweet spot for full frame. For ultra wide, though, I'd go back to APS or m43 because those lenses can get pretty big also. The Olympus 9-18 is a miniature gem, as is the somewhat larger and notably wider Pany 7-14. I'm looking forward to seeing the Fuji 10-24, but I'm not expecting it to be particularly small - even the 14mm f2.8 is a pretty beefy lens...Absolutely. I've had this argument with folks and they don't seem to get it, lol.
To a great extent, people don't even know how big APS-C lenses need to be because both Canon and Nikon have tended to make their best glass only for full frame, with APS-C shooters adopting that huge glass. Thom Hogan has posted extensively over the years lamenting the lack of "support" for APS-C. With the advent of compact APS-C system cameras we'll be seeing how big those lenses are comparatively and in many cases for the first time for some of us.
Some have lamented the size of the Fujinon 55-200mm zoom for the X cameras -- but those lenses are actually pretty much right sized for their build quality and specs. Certainly, you can see the difference even between APS-C and Micro Four Thirds zooms, lol. If you want small, you don't want full frame or maybe even APS-C.
I think you're right that whoever reviewed that cam really doesn't get how big full frame zooms need to be.
I love this observation in the SAR column in the 2nd post.....
"5) He didn’t like the lenses. The zooms are to big and the primes not fast enough. The NEX-FF camera will appeal pro photographer but Sony didn’t make the right lenses yet (so he says). He hopes they do it in future."
I think people only need to look at DSLR zooms for APS-C cameras and realize that they will be EVEN BIGGER for a full frame camera. Taking out the mirror and making the camera body smaller doesn't change how big the lenses need to be. I predict the cameras will be amazing imaging machines. And I predict that most people will not like how big they are.