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Take pics at someone's wedding, unasked?

Discussion in 'The Watering Hole' started by KillRamsey, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    They're decently good friends. They've invited you to their small wedding. They've got a hired guy, but he's shooting solo and doesn't look (forgive me here) especially over-the-top talented. He's shooting nothing but on-camera flash shots, and even if he's Michelangelo reincarnated, he can't be everywhere at once. And you... you have your small, quiet, Fuji X-T1 with the 23 and 56 lenses on your shoulder.

    It's not your place to do anything. You CERTAINLY will not be "working" or anything approaching it -- not getting in anyone's way, not assembling shots, not posing people, not standing on any chairs to get up high, etc. Just standing around as you already were... and maybe sneaking a few shots.

    Ok, or not? I felt a little guilty, but I couldn't help it. This one especially... he's in the background chimping as they walk towards me down the aisle. I assume he got no shots of them for this? I got 5 as they progressively got closer.

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    I feel like if they didn't ask me to shoot pics, I shouldn't shoot pics out of respect, or something. But man, I just felt like I was watching someone drown, and I could help a tiny bit without being spotted. And I sent them a shared folder...
     
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  2. Arbib

    Arbib SC Regular

    54
    Aug 18, 2015
    As long as you stay out of his way, and don't stay on his background... You are not interfering with his plan.
    I guess he did not ask you to stop? He felt unthreatened IMO.

    It sounds like he might have been a friend or a friend of a friend who suggested that he does the wedding. When I did weddings (1990-1993),
    I used an over lens axis flash bracket and a Quantum High Power Battery pack..

    But, it sounds like you did fine, and probably did get some better photos as looking at the few you posted.
    That was a nice gesture to share your gallery with the Wedding Party.

    Don't feel guilty, there are no exclusive rights for the Hired Photographer... Just respect their space and job.
     
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  3. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    As long as you're not getting int he way or getting people to look your way instead of his, you're fine. And I'm sure they'll be pleased as punch. Hopefully they won't be bummed when your shots are better than his. :eek-54:
     
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  4. greyelm

    greyelm SC Top Veteran

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    Oct 1, 2011
    London, England
    Only a few years ago it was common for disposable film camera to be left on the guests' tables with instructions to take whatever pictures they wanted and then return to the bride & groom. I'm sure many great candid shots were obtained in this way. As long as the guests don't get in the way of the pro I can see nothing wrong with guests taking pictures (as they have done for decades).
     
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  5. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

    Jul 15, 2010
    SoCal
    Bob
    I never bring a camera to weddings, birthdays, graduations or any other functions unless I am a member of the immediate family. Honestly why did you bring the XT1 with two lenses unless you intended to shoot something
     
  6. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    A small camera and no flash, no bumping into anyone or getting in the way? Should be a dream come true for the newlyweds.
     
  7. Agree with the sentiment, stay out of the proffessional's way. They are getting paid to be there.

    That said, everyone takes photos at weddings. If you see opportunities go for it. Then simply share with the couple that you have some images they might like.
     
  8. bassman

    bassman SC Rookie

    20
    Feb 12, 2014
    New Jersey, USA
    I asked my cousin before her daughter's wedding whether she wanted me to shoot. She gave the ground rules (no shooting during the ceremony, don't get in the pro's way), which I happily agreed with.
     
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  9. davidzvi

    davidzvi SC Regular

    180
    Apr 18, 2014
    David
    As long as you weren't in his way and he didn't ask you to stop don't worry about it. If that's him in the background of the first shot than he has reasonable flash modifier, it looks like a Demb Flash Products Flip-it. But if it is him then it also seems he's in the wrong position in that shot. Unless there was something back in that direction he was trying to capture.

    Many pros do have a sole pro photographer clause in their contract, so it might have been a good idea to just go say hello.
     
  10. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    I don't think most people would mind and many would be thrilled. That said, I don't think I'd do it without asking first, just because you never know - people can be really on edge about weddings and anything slightly away from the carefully planned blueprint might ruffle feathers. But since you already did it, I'm guessing nobody was bothered by it if they didn't say anything and I'm sure they'll love the shots you offer them. And what the hell - I always subscribe to "it's better to ask forgiveness than permission" as a guiding philosophy, so you did it right by that metric!

    -Ray
     
  11. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    This was the first of 3 events my wife and I went to in one night. We had babysitting, and decided to go for all 3. So I had the camera and 2 lenses with me for the same reason I always do -- I bring a camera more or less everywhere. As to the wedding in particular, I knew the were doing it on a serious budget, and part of me wondered if they could even hire anyone. So that was probably a little bit more of a nudge for me in the back of my mind... "just in case it helps." But I take a camera to walk the dog around the block.
     
  12. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    I went back through it, and all I did was mill around with my wife, like everyone else, and occasionally take a photo from where I was standing. I feel like you'd have to really be digging to find that offensive, but then, as Ray says, weddings come with a pinch of crazy to them.

    Thanks folks.
     
  13. pniev

    pniev Student for life

    Jun 10, 2013
    don't bother. You've got some nice photos. And probably many people used their phones or the cameras in their glasses. ;-)
     
  14. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    She wrote back! I sent her a link to the photo album again, and she loved them. Well, good. I can relax now.
     
  15. Does not seem like you did anything crazy. Offer to share, I am sure they would appreciate it.
     
  16. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

    Jul 15, 2010
    SoCal
    Bob

    I understand completely, and please I am not referring to your story at all.

    I also take a camera with me most everywhere, except events like weddings.

    I have divided feelings by two major issues, 1st I make my living as a photographer, so when I am not working, I shoot only because it is fun and weddings are rarely fun for me. I will not at this point shoot for free for most anybody and nobody should ask someone to do so. There are certain professions where some people feel they can ask for a favor, for nothing other than that they know you and photography is one.

    2ND these forums are full of people criticizing wedding photographers claiming they as amateurs or “pro/ams” could do a much better job cheaper, something they would never apply to their own professions. If one needs photos of their wedding, budget accordingly and hire some local professional wedding photographer.
     
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  17. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 SC Top Veteran

    537
    Feb 6, 2015
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    People are going to do what they want. I've shot enough weddings to know that. I explain to the couple at the consultation that I cannot control how their guests are going to behave. I'm not liable for missing shots when "uncle bob" jumps into the isle or up in his seat to grab a shot just as I am trying to get my first kiss or exchanging of the rings.

    Don't be an "uncle bob"and everything should be fine. :D

    At the last wedding I shot, during the formals afterwards...I had some family relative shooting over my back with his point and shoot. I didn't care until he started trying to direct the wedding party where to stand.

    Some have no clue whatsoever.
     
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  18. More reasons I would never want to take my fun hobby into a profession.
     
  19. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey SC Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2012
    Cambridge, MA
    Kyle
    Bob that makes sense, completely. I'm still in that period where I'm not being paid for it (except for an event last night... woo hoo!) and it's still more than just "fun," it's almost a compulsion. It's difficult for me to miss an opportunity to learn something, and I learn every time I shoot something new. I'm also very conscious of the cheapening of photography, and I'm not excited about ever being a part of it. At some point, I'll feel "good" enough to feel ok asking for payment, or not doing the job. That time may have arrived.
     
  20. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

    Jul 15, 2010
    SoCal
    Bob
    Depends on whether you have fun with your profession, I cannot imagine doing anything else, it has been an awesome ride
     
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