Tell me I'm an idiot........ please!

Discussion in 'Leica M Forum' started by defektive, May 25, 2012.

  1. defektive

    defektive SC Veteran

    375
    May 4, 2011
    Tasmania, Australia
    Sam
    I am finding it hard to justify having so much cash tied up in an M9 (that I have only had for a few weeks) and have been wanting to get back into film for a while. Why don't I sell it and buy a film M and an Xpro 1 on which I can use my M lenses and the excellent Fuji XS range - best of both worlds? I have looked hard at the Xpro reviews and don't think there is too much that I couldn't live with, I know the crop factor will give my lenses a different FL but I can supplement them with the Fujis.

    Opinions much appreciated.
     
  2. BillN

    BillN SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 25, 2010
    S W France
    Bill
    How much are you going to loose £500 ish!

    "A Leica is for Life not just for Christmas"
     
  3. defektive

    defektive SC Veteran

    375
    May 4, 2011
    Tasmania, Australia
    Sam
    Do you mean on the price I paid for the M9? Should get what I paid as I bought it used and they are still going for a similar price.
     
  4. Iansky

    Iansky SC Top Veteran

    782
    Dec 8, 2011
    Cotswolds, UK
    If you can afford to lose some money then getting an M analogue + Fuji XPro-1 will give you the best of both whilst still allowing you to use your existing lenses on both cameras (Fuji + others have Leica M adapter for XPro-1).

    UK Magazine has just compared Leica M9 / Fuji Xpro-1 / Sony Nex7 and for a tactile, well made, high IQ camera in a "Rangefinder Style", the Xpro-1 won out with the best low light IQ of all 3 and it held it's own all the way against the M9 / Nex7 and surpassed both in others so yours is a very worthy proposition providing you are happy to lose some money.

    Good luck and let us all know the outcome.
     
  5. Boid

    Boid SC All-Pro

    Dec 15, 2011
    Bangalore, India
    Rajiv
    * perk * Verrrrry interested in seeing how this discussion pans out.
     
  6. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    Do you really need advice?
    Is your decision going to change in the light of anything we say?
    Are you seeking confirmation for an already made decision? (You won't get it, some people will just say Keep The M, others will say Sell The M ... )

    :biggrin:

    Now, if you can just PM me your email address so that I can submit an invoice for my consultancy session ...
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. BillN

    BillN SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 25, 2010
    S W France
    Bill
    If you want the XP whatever and you can get your money back on the M9 - sell the M9

    pity that you are not in the UK as I have a nice M6

    [​IMG][/IMG]
     
  8. defektive

    defektive SC Veteran

    375
    May 4, 2011
    Tasmania, Australia
    Sam
    Good point, I really don't know if I have made a decision or not. I suppose hat means that I haven't ;/
     
  9. defektive

    defektive SC Veteran

    375
    May 4, 2011
    Tasmania, Australia
    Sam
    Bill, if you are seriously selling your M6 send me a pm. I doubt I'll find what I want in Aus and I have bought plenty from o/s in the past.
     
  10. BillN

    BillN SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 25, 2010
    S W France
    Bill
    Sam, let me 'dig it out" - (it is stored safely) - I've not used it for a couple of years, (it was working fine), but I'll check it over and send you a few more images
     
  11. stillshunter

    stillshunter Super Moderator Emeritus

    Nov 5, 2010
    Down Under
    Mark
    OK I never had the M9, but I did have a few nice digitals, and I'm in a really good place now with the M2 the Biogon-C and Planar and the X10. Honestly, I'm set. The only thing that tempts me into the future is an M6 (though I do like an unbusy finder). Only problem is I must have a Panda to go with the silver ZMs lenses :blush:

    Coz you asked for it, take it from me you're still an idiot though mate :laugh1:
    NB: Before I get hate mail please note Sam and my friendship predates our both joining SC...
     
  12. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I'd sell the M9. You can still have a Leica and you can still have a fantastic digital camera.
     
  13. defektive

    defektive SC Veteran

    375
    May 4, 2011
    Tasmania, Australia
    Sam
    That's what got me thinking along this path Luke. I really love the M9 but:
    1) I am an amateur photographer with a modest income that struggles to justify this investment for playing around on forums and taking pictures of my kids.
    2) I miss not being able to do much with close up photography
    3) Film is still beckoning and if I kept the M9 it would be another 2-3 years before I could buy an M6
    4) My main reason for getting into the M system was for the glass, I can still use it in the system I am considering. I have fallen for the Leica rangefinder system though so would be mighty happy to be able to keep my involvement with a film version.

    @Mark - not worthy of a reply :friends:.
     
  14. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I don't know your financial status Sam, but those lovely M-mount lenses will work on any of a number of bodies. If I were you, I'd buy Bill's M6, a cheapo used body (maybe a NEX for the focus peaking feature) and put the balance towards towards a vacation somewhere scenic to use your new toys and then when the "next big thing camera" comes out next year, I'd buy a used Fuji X-Pro1 kit that's been barely sued for about 60% of what it costs new.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. Andrewteee

    Andrewteee SC All-Pro

    Jul 8, 2010
    I have decided to shoot as much film as I can while I can because someday it just may disappear. But I'm enjoying the party for now. I looooove my Zeiss Sonnar 50mm prints! Therefore, I'd recommend the film M (or Zeiss ikon). As an alternative to the XP1 also consider the Ricoh GXR with the Mount unit for using your M-mount lenses and the 50mm A12 for closeups. Best of all worlds IMO.
     
  16. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

    Jul 15, 2010
    SoCal
    Bob
    the plan makes sense to me, but I would get the XPro new or used for sure, rangefinder film cameras are a very special experience but there are times when a good digital with AF is what one needs.
     
  17. Brian

    Brian SC Top Veteran

    638
    Jul 7, 2010
    Well, if you love film, and want to shoot film, you can't use an M9.

    Did you really think it was a film camera?

    If so- sell it, and get a camera that uses film.

    Now- if you bought it with the idea of shooting digital, it was a good choice.
     
  18. olli

    olli Super Moderator Emeritus

    Sep 28, 2010
    Metro Manila
    olli
    So - and I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way - why on earth did you buy it in the first place?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. defektive

    defektive SC Veteran

    375
    May 4, 2011
    Tasmania, Australia
    Sam
    I had an M8 and realized I could sell it and all my accessories and run with an M9 and one lens. It had been a gradual accumulation of gear to get to the point where I could afford an M9 and that was the natural next step. When you are regularly trading lenses valued at $1500+ you tend to forget what else you could use that money for and it is only recently that I have sat back and looked at it objectively and dispassionately (which can be very hard for me to do as I really do love the camera and system).

    Thank you all for your input in this, I really didn't expect such a helpful response. I have much to think about.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. Michael Penn

    Michael Penn SC Veteran

    291
    Sep 14, 2010
    Philadelphia
    You want the truth ? I'll give you the truth.

    For the last year I've been watching many so called photographers buy, trade and sell every new camera that comes down the pike yet never see any photographs. A 10 is not better than a 9 just because a manufacture says it is. Sensor size, megapixel and ridiculous high ISO mean nothing if you don't have a good eye. Seriously, stop buying and selling cameras like they're stock, shut the **** up and shoot because a new camera is not going to make you any better of a photographer.

    Rant Off