The death of photography?

Discussion in 'Philosophy of Photography' started by olli, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. olli

    olli Super Moderator Emeritus

    Sep 28, 2010
    Metro Manila
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  2. entropic remnants

    entropic remnants SC All-Pro

    Mar 3, 2013
    John Griggs
    Just take pictures and forget about it.
     
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  3. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    It reminds me of this catch phrase that was printed on a billion LP inner sleeves..... "home taping is killing music". 40 years later, there are even more ways to "steal" music, and yet people still create more. The music was never killed.

    And I reckon that even though I don't consider myself a "real" photographer, the mere fact that I will never use a portable telephone to capture light, makes me think that photography is not dead...... at least not to this curmudgeon. (note to self.....read the article past the first paragraph......there must be something I missed).
     
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  4. Petach

    Petach SC All-Pro

    Oct 22, 2011
    UK, Essex
    Peter Tachauer
    who was it said "Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated"?
     
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  5. Lawrence A.

    Lawrence A. SC All-Pro

    Nov 8, 2012
    New Mexico
    Larry
    Camera phones are the new instamatics. The number of people taking serious pictures with serious cameras has always been fairly small. My father took years of family photos (now fading and green) on Polaroid, which he loved. Our neighbors shot an instamatic, then disc. I imagine they are using their cell phones now. A reasonable facsimile of uncle Grouchy was more than enough for most people for most of photography's commerical history.
     
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  6. biglouis

    biglouis SC Veteran

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    Aug 4, 2013
    I can see how for news and media purposes the camera-phone is a boon to news organisations. After all the camera you have with you is the one that gets the shot.

    But for photography as a fine art medium? Are we saying that popular photography is destroying photography as fine art? Did photography destroy fine art painting? Did painting destroy sculpture?

    A question worth posing in a "Guardian-looking-up-its-own-backside" sort-of way.

    LouisB
     
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  7. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    Let's see how things are in 100 years time... oh, hang on, we'll all be dead and it won't matter, will it?
     
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  8. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    It's the Guardian... They don't do uplifting, fun or optimistic...

    Sent from another Galaxy
     
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  9. i.am.mine

    i.am.mine SC Regular

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    Feb 7, 2012
    I'd love a Nokia 1020...what's wrong with a camera-phone?
     
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  10. Boid

    Boid SC All-Pro

    Dec 15, 2011
    Bangalore, India
    Rajiv
    I took a better picture of the Mona Lisa getting mobbed

    gCmy6UE.
     
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  11. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    It's all about the eye, the heart, and the mind.

    Years ago, Editor and Publisher reported on a workshop for news photographers. They showed up with their anvil cases full of Nikons and Hasselblads and were handed Instamatics and told to shoot with those. They still made great pictures.

    There are, I think, many excellent photographers on this forum, but to single out just a couple, if you handed Ray Sachs or John Griggs disposable cameras and told them to go do their usual thing, they would still make interesting pictures.

    By way of analogy, the wide availability of pens, word processing computers, and texting smart phones has not ruined my life as a writer.

    Cheers, Jock
     
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  12. pdh

    pdh SC Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    By the way, if one reads the article itself (rather than simply dismiss it because of where it was published) it is mainly quoting Antonio Olmos as proclaiming the death (although Eamonn McCabe has a moan too)
     
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  13. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    Check out BBW's Flickr stream sometime. She's been shooting with nothing but an iPhone for many months now, maybe a year or more, and she does some BEAUTIFUL photography with that little light capturing device. The medium (or tool) isn't the message - the message is the message.

    Most photography since it was invented has been crap and there's more of it now because there's no cost to produce it and everyone has one (similar to why there are so many children still being made!). And there's nothing wrong with all of those family snaps, BTW. But some small percentage of people who use camera-like devices have always tried to do something more with it and some of them have always managed to create art with them. And still do. And always will, as long as there are cameras of any type around.

    Photography ain't dead, just diluted to a slightly greater extent than in the past.

    -Ray
     
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  14. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    Thanks, Ray, thats my feeling too. I love BB's work, she does some amazing stuff.

    I also love my iPhone camera. And my Ricoh, and my Nikon, and... yada yada... If people are going to get all precious because more people have access to photography than ever before, they need to ask themselves what they are doing it for. me.. I take photographs because I like to. And I *like* that photography is more accessible to the masses. I would have thought that was a good thing. If phone cameras are "stealing" work from professionals then perhaps they werent that good to start off with. I suspect the same people fretting over that are also the same people who fretted when digital photography happened along. They need to get over themselves.
     
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  15. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    My response was directed at the writer's assertion that the proliferation of camera phones were killing traditional photography. I never meant to imply (and don't think that I did) that camera phone photographs are any less of a photograph than one taken with a traditional picture-taking device.

    And "Amen" to everything Sue said.
     
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  16. TraamisVOS

    TraamisVOS SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 29, 2010
    Melboune, Australia
    Holy Cheeses. Is it really like this...? It's just not worth it, even if it's one of the most famous paintings in history.
     
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  17. TraamisVOS

    TraamisVOS SC Hall of Famer

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  18. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Wanting to maintain the exclusivity of something is part of the human condition.
     
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  19. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs SC Legend

    Sep 21, 2010
    Not too far from Philly
    you should be able to figure it out...
    No, I got that. But it could easily be taken to imply that cell phone photography was a lesser beast (which much of it surely is) and that's obviously not the case...

    -Ray
     
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