So we decided to go to Matador State Beach for sunset yesterday evening, and things started to go off from the minute we hit the sand down the roughly 1/4 mile walk w/stairs. A. LOTS of people all about. No biggie, we've all got a right to be there. B. Group of about 10 people all shooting video of three teenage girls posing with red balloons and chasing them around the beach. Looked like a project of some sort. Annoying. C. My g/f forgot the little grommet thingy that screws into the bottom of the camera and then clips into the tripod for her rig. I had mine. So I gave her mine and proceeded to shoot the rest of the evening by hand, something I haven't done in forever. D. People were letting their kids run AMOK and get into what were clearly photographers planned out angles, areas, shot, you-name-it. E. As darkness descended, and long exposure happiness set in, not only did I NOT have a tripod, people on the far end of the beach were using point and shoots with, of course, flashes. That said, the LX5 has really impressed me with what it can do W/OUT a tripod. Speaks well for the camera. That said, there are numerous rocks, arches, and massifs up and down the beach, which are nice, but I grew up in the Big Sur/Monterey area, so I've had a lifetime of seeing them Right as one gets off the last steps, immediately to the right. This happened a few times, and I have no explanation for it. The sun showed....green. Ruins an otherwise acceptable shot. Not this time. Of course, there are a lot of gulls around, too. I posted another shot in the 'show birds' thread, but like this because of the light coming off the sand ripples Even under the rocks, one cannot escape the footprints of other people Then, for my last shot of the evening, I get my tripod back but, this being L.A., w/LAX, contrails seem unavoidable. Finally, just for screwing around purposes, I took one shot and tried to make it look like something from a 1970s rock album in the days of vinyl and vans with sunsets on the side. Dig that heavy trip, man. And no HDR!