The LONG rumoured 300 2.8 just showed up

Discussion in 'Samsung NX Forum' started by Brian style, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Brian style

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  2. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

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    bart
    Indeed, it's massive - I could never, ever see myself lugging something like that for a hobby, only for work.
    And white?!? ugh, lamest fad in ********** by far, IMO.
     
  3. Brian style

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    I believe Canon uses white because of some of the elements in the lens. They are more sensitive to heat so the white helps keep the lens a little cooler than black lenses do.

    I shoot Canon and don't like the white lenses aesthetically. Sad Samsung went with white especially since it is such a beastly lens!
     
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  4. RT Panther

    RT Panther SC All-Pro

    Dec 25, 2012
    Yep.
    That's the origins of the white Canon glass....:smile:
     
  5. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

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    bart
    fair enough, not a fad then. Still hideous :wink:
     
  6. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

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    Bob
    I always understood that Canon went with white to stand out at sporting events from "Nikon", Nikon dominated early sports photography until Canons came out with faster AF, at the time so the white let you know how many were being used. AF is about par at this point making both cameras equally popular for sports
     
  7. BillN

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    Bill
    looks nice
     
  8. Richard

    Richard SC Top Veteran

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    OK, I give up ... what's a "Super Sonic Actuator" ?

    Something you'd use when taking pictures of fast aircraft? Or bats?

    -R
     
  9. Luckypenguin

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    Dec 24, 2010
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    Nic
    That is the most, erm, serious looking lens that I have yet seen made for a mirrorless camera system, and possibly the most special purpose as well.
     
  10. Luckypenguin

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    Nic
    Super Sonic Actuator, Ultrasonic Motor, Hypersonic Motor, Supersonic Wave Drive, Silent Wave Motor, Piezo Drive...

    Take your pick :smile:
     
  11. BillN

    BillN SC Hall of Famer

    Aug 25, 2010
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    Bill
    It has Super Hypersonic Activated Motor with a Wave Piezo Drive that can cook Pizzas at the press of the shutter release using the timer function plus tell you the time in 27 languages, English and Irish excluded

    and I want one

    I can paint it camo colours, British Army style

    How much?
     
  12. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
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    Luke
    I wonder if this even shows up on Canon and Nikon's radar. That thing looks BOSS!
     
  13. Brian style

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    Canon makes a 300 2.8 IS http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_300mm_f_2_8l_is_ii_usm
    The similarities between the Canon and new Samsung are pretty obvious ;)
    Of course the Canon is for FF so the size makes sense....the Samsung size? Well...... The Canon 300 f4 IS is more of a direct FF equivalent for equivalent DOF and aperture performance on a crop so it might be a better indicator of the Samsung size (minus the hood Samsung had on it which made it look it more massive).

    Canon 300 2.8IS 5.0 x 9.8 in, 82.9 oz. / 128 x 248mm, 2350g
    Canon 300 f4IS 3.5" x 8.7", 2.6 lbs. / 90.0 x 221.0mm, 1190g
     
  14. Luckypenguin

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    Nic
    If you're adjusting for aperture equivalence then you also need to consider focal length equivalence, in which case the EF 400mm f/4 DO IS II USM is the closest full frame lens offered by Canon at a trifling ~$6900.

    http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_400mm_f_4_do_is_ii_usm#Specifications

    The Samsung has a drop-in rear filter indicating that the front element is enormous. I'd guess that the weight would be up around the same 2kg mark as the Canon 300mm f/2.8 and 400mm f/4.
     
  15. RT Panther

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    Nikon could only muster a 200 ƒ2.0
     
  16. Brian style

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    You don't have to adjust for FL. A 300mm lens is a 300mm lens, the extra apparent length is from the "crop factor". But the opening on a f2.8 lens designed for a crop sensor is closer to the size of an f4 lens designed for FF than a 2.8 for FF. So a 2.8 lens for crops can be smaller, like an f4 lens for FF can be smaller. :)
     
  17. Brian style

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    A drop in rear filter?!? I didn't even notice. This is obviously a pretty serious lens!!
     
  18. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I meant more in a way of do they even care that Electronics giant Samsung has started making serious cameras or do they not see them as a threat.
     
  19. RT Panther

    RT Panther SC All-Pro

    Dec 25, 2012
    Tough to say.
    Nikon is currently sitting behind "King Canon" and Sony is rapidly gaining ground.

    Time will tell. :smil:
     
  20. Brian style

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    Nikon went even smaller than 4/3 sooooo.... Guess they wanted to protect their crop line. :/ They missed an opportunity.
    Canon didn't really care about the M but did it because they felt they HAD too. Missed opportunity.
    Fuji, Sony, and Samsung appreciate the lackadaisical attitude by the big too LOL